Well, it's like, i don't think any of us have anything against HOGs or infi (although i admit i like S7/SR-77 better), it's just that they didn't show up in droves from the beginning, they showed up when they thought they could get a knife made of infi on the cheap. THAT was what bothered me (and the fact that when they lost the vote they all split -- no, not all, but the numbers went from 17 viewing to 6 viewing. The subversive, do-anything-for-infi thing definitely has its place -- on the Busse Combat forum. Fanatic DOGS represent here -- in tha Dogg House -- holla!