Cloak: exactly what I was thinking!
My cedar spindle grind down too easy.

idk what to use for a spindle though and I know it CAN be done with a cedar spindle and base.

my spindle doesn't really go flying anymore...
it's more like... I lose concentrations and I don't apply pressure and the bottom slips out and the spindle unwraps from the string.

I have a good handhold now.

my bow is VERY sloppy looking.
but it feels good in my hand so I'm fine with it.

actually... surprisingly, I ENJOY going out and practicing.
I don't find myself getting frustrated because I get closer every time I go out.
I actually feel pretty accomplished.

I might try a different spindle if this one doesn't work out.

thanks for the advice.
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