Jim - I think chickenplucker stated it quite well concerning Jerry, Dan, and Eric. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> And if some of the other "older established" Hogs act like jerks - who cares?!? It's THEIR problem, not ours! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> Personally, I'm very proud of the conduct our fellow Dogs exhibit here in the Yard - they are a GREAT Pack!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />