I was warned by paypal when ebay removed the listing. I think that's why I got my money back so quick. I have had numerous good experiences with ebay, including my leatherman surge. I was too focused on price this time and didn't even check the sellers history, got comfortable. I take a lot of chances and thank God most have been good so far. I always check my banking accounts online and have caught unapproved transactions before. My latest risk was that zazuh dot com. Got my Maxpedition Jumbo shipped for $67. Amazon is my safest bet.