thanks so far guys, I am extremely new to this strange obsession/addiction, a couple months ago I figured I needed some good knives to go with the other ahh um "tools", esp. for our 72hr kits, My first larger, atleast to me, knife was a Ontario Rat TAK, 11" oal, etc etc, then I picked up a nice orange handled RC3 for my wife and she also dug the Izula with fire kit so I got that in pink for her which she edc in her purse. But for some reason I kept coming back to ogle these busse/bussekin knives, I was irretrievably drawn to them, I watched the knife tests, no more Ontario's, the chopper I was looking at just shattered while he did basic baton work,(ontario TAK II) but these busse name knives outperformed everything and were just freaking beautiful, especially the scrapyards I love the basic black res-C black blade tactical, functional and tough as hell. I love the simplicity, the Form married to function and backed up by the word, THE WORD OF A MAN. This is what I was taught growing up, that your word is your bond, that all one truly has of value in this life is his good name. Here for life gentlemen!