Here is something you can do a Noss test on and it will take a pretty fair beating @ 15 bucks. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" /> Fun to tweak a bit and great to have in your rig or just around the house. http://countycomm.com/eodrtool.htm Have fun !! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />