zeronine, no doubt the $ has gone up on La Glorias.... Sounds like u are a "full bodied" cigar smoker... Cigar International sometimes sells the "El Credito" line of seconds at times... truth is their own Corojo brand is pretty good... Other less costly "full bodied complex" cigars IMO are Padron and J.R. cigars...."Ultimates" are pretty good... One of the strongest cigars i've ever had was the Camacho Corojo.....(I used to smoke 2 El creditos a day back then).....and this Camacho made my head buzz after 3 minutes.... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" /> .... I had to put her down or puke! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />
