I would like to add though, that this new S5LE in my opinion, is and probably well be one of the best blades, as far as material things go, the mudder grip, res c for feel, INFI steel in a medium blade that will provide corrosion resistance, edge holding and superb toughness, thinner stock for slicing, an attractive finish, pretty well balanced and great design, INFI in my opinion would be the perfect steel for this knife