okay I found something else that's making the PMR looking even more tempting.

RMR-30 (Kel-Tex mock-up)
http://www.ktog.org/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1285484545/0





even looks a little like the .308 they have out. the mark up prices on the PMR30 are ridiculous in some places but I hope the supply will catch up to the demand in 2011.