Paul - I was referring to a BLADE !!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Besides, a dog won't likely turn on its loving Master - like Dan ! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />