Andy - you are exactly correct about the phone lines in the "sticks". It is the same excuse our IPS gave us. And yes, the satellite service is expensive, and with all the stormy weather to the south of us we would be without it quite often. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banghead.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />