cool beans vic....i've been reading good things about that razor blade steel Sandvik 13c26....As I am a noob steelhead, what i know of the steel is from reading posts by more knoweledgable forumites like our very own Thombrogan and the comments about the 13c26 have been "very favorable"..... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />