My thoughts. Please keep thickness behind the edge down <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />. I really liked how thinly ground the Max's were. If .010 behind the edge seems a bit to thin to some users, maybe go more like .015 or so? 3/16" or 1/8" stock is fine with me as long as edge thinnes is down. I say war dog handle as well. I like the mudders. But the wardog handle is much more comfortable in my XL hands. Elmax still sounds epic in high hardness and thin.