Roo - I agree with your theory. I already have the CG Scrapper, and I'm hoping my wife gets me an LE version for my birthday. The Swamp's discontinuing the Camp Tramp and Battlerat - which I still don't understand - should teach us all a lesson. Fortunately for me, I acquired both models; they are terrific blades, as are the Scrappers. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> Tom <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />