411 for me.... I just can't get along with the funky R series bumped handles....my bank account is VERY grateful for this....!!! Godson No2 is VERY fond of his 411 and it has now skinned pleanty of critters (a fox, a deer and a cat in the last couple of weeks) now as well..I suspect i will have "upgrade" his sister's Izula for her soon as well....