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Re: Ammo selection
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04/07/15 01:45 PM
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Re: Ammo selection
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04/07/15 02:05 PM
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Re: Ammo selection
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04/07/15 02:25 PM
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I have no problem with modern ammo in any of the big 3 defensive rounds. 9mm, 40 or 45.
In all honesty the FBI doesn't know very much about Street level Law Enforcement.
Of all the agencies they are one of the least likely to be involved in a shooting.
That wasn't always the case. We learned a whole lot from the FBI shooting on 4/11/86 in Miami. A tragic and painful lesson though.
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Re: Ammo selection
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04/07/15 05:49 PM
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YUP, I agree MB. What they should have done is figure that departments have the most officer shootings and then question them about what went right and wrong and then make the determination. The Feds rely on intimidation and reputation mostly and don't really have to "Pull the trigger" as much as their "Studies" would tend to indicate. Just my 2c and I could VERY easily be wrong.
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Re: Ammo selection
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04/07/15 05:50 PM
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Pretty much what I linked to. I clicked on the link and it said that the server was under maintenance.
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Re: Ammo selection
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04/07/15 06:13 PM
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In a nut shell, here is the recommended ammo for Defensive carry.
The Rounds listed bellow in 9mm, .40 Cal and 45 ACP, have been tested extensively and/or meet your carry standard.
9mm
Barnes XPB 115gr HP (35515) such as loaded by Cor-Bon (DPX09115) Winchester Partition Gold 124gr JHP (RA91P) Winchester PDX1 124 gr +P JHP (S9MMPDB) Winchester PDX1 147 gr JHP (S9MMPDB1) Winchester Ranger-T 124 gr +P JHP (RA9124TP) Winchester Ranger Bonded 124 gr +P JHP (RA9BA) Winchester Ranger-T 127gr JHP +P+ (RA9TA) Winchester Ranger-T 147gr JHP (RA9T) Winchester Bonded 147gr JHP (RA9B/Q4364) Speer Gold Dor 124gr JHP Speer Gold Dot 124gr JHP +P (53617) Speer Gold Dot 147gr JHP (53619) Remington Golden Saber 124 gr +P JHP bonded (GSB9MMD) Remington Golden Saber 147gr JHP (GS9MMC) Federal Tactical 124gr JHP (LE9T1) Federal Tactical 135gr JHP +P (LE9T5) Federal HST 147gr JHP (P9HST2) Federal HST 124gr JHP +P (P9HST3)
.40 S&W
Barnes all-copper bullets (140 & 155gr) loaded by: Cor-Bon (DPX40140) Winchester Partition Gold 165gr JHP (RA401P) Winchester PDX1 165 gr JHP (S40SWPDB) Winchester PDX1 160 gr JHP (S40SWPDB1) Winchester Ranger 165gr JHP (RA40TA) Winchester Ranger 180gr JHP (RA40T) Winchester Bonded 180gr JHP (Q4355) Speer Gold Dot 155gr JHP (53961) Speer Gold Dot 180gr JHP (53962) Federal Tactical 165gr JHP (LE40T3) Federal Tactical 180gr JHP (LE40T1) Federal HST 180gr JHP (P40HST1) Remington Golden Saber 180 gr JHP (GS40SWB)
.45ACP
Barnes XPB/TAC-XP 185gr HP loaded by: Cor-Bon (DPX45185) Taurus (TCB45ACP185HP)
Winchester PDX1 230 gr JHP (S45SWPDb) Winchester Ranger-T 230gr JHP (RA45T) Winchester Ranger-T 230gr JHP +P (RA45TP) Federal Tactical 230gr JHP (LE45T1) Federal HST 230gr +P JHP (P45HST1) Federal HST 230gr JHP (P45HST2) Speer Gold Dot 230gr JHP (23966) Speer Gold Dot 230gr +P JHP (53969)
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Re: Ammo selection
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04/07/15 11:02 PM
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Re: Ammo selection
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04/07/15 11:34 PM
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Federal 9mm hst ammo.
SPECIFICATIONS (124 GR/124 GR +P):
Velocity in Feet Per Second Muzzle: 1150/1200 25: 1095/1136 50: 1049/1083 75: 1010/1039 100: 977/1002
Energy in Foot Pounds Muzzle: 364/396 25: 330/355 50: 303/323 75: 281/297 100: 263/277
************************************************************ SPECIFICATIONS (147 GR/147 GR +P):
Velocity in Feet Per Second Muzzle: 1000/1050 25: 976/1020 50: 953/994 75: 933/970 100: 914/949
Energy in Foot Pounds Muzzle: 326/360 25: 311/340 50: 297/323 75: 284/307 100: 273/294
REMINGTON GOLDEN SABRE 9mm +P BJHP 124 384 1180
WINCHESTER RANGER T 9mm+P T-Series 127 441 1250
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Re: Ammo selection
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04/08/15 03:00 AM
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Nothing wrong with Golden Sabres or Gold Dots. Both of those have served us very well in real life usage.
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Re: Ammo selection
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04/08/15 03:48 PM
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Well I found out where I can get the Federal HST3 +P ammo for about 40 dollars more for 500. Now THAT is supposed to be a good round.
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