Re: Apocalsypse Guns ....
[Re: Endeavour Morse]
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11/27/15 01:00 AM
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Lol can't argue that. I was curious about the mechanical and component advantage.
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Re: Apocalsypse Guns ....
[Re: Endeavour Morse]
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11/28/15 01:52 AM
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I also love my piston gun. I and a few of my buddies run the adams arms set ups and have great luck with it. No baked on carbon is a huge time saver on clean up.
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Re: Apocalsypse Guns ....
[Re: Endeavour Morse]
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12/01/15 03:50 PM
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Number of successful designs using DI (Direct Impingement) = 3
French MAS40, Swedish Ljungman, AR10/AR15
Number of successful designs using DB (Delayed Blowback) = 8 (if you count the G3 as five designs: CETME + G3 + HK93 + MP5 + CETME L)?
French FAMAS German STG45 CETME / German G3 (and variants) Swiss SIG 510
Number of designs using Piston = All the rest
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I am now a fictional British television police officer (currently a Detective Sgt) at Thames Valley Station. My governor is Detective Inspector Fred Thursday and it’s 1969.
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Re: Apocalsypse Guns ....
[Re: Endeavour Morse]
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12/01/15 04:24 PM
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The Swedish AG42b was a wonderful rifle to shoot. NOTHING much made sense about it but it was accurate, reliable and a dream to squeeze off rounds in. Compared to an AR it was a dream to clean as well. If you however think "Garand Thumb" is a serious injury "Swede Finger" is a whole higher level of pain/injury !!
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Re: Apocalsypse Guns ....
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12/02/15 12:14 PM
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Andy, I've owned two Egyptian Hakim's in 8mm (7.92x57mm). I agree with your assessment. However, the Hakim (Egypt's AG42b Clone) had a muzzle brake that was deafening.
I kept one Hakim just to run people off the range. If another shooter was being inconsiderate (wanting to walk down range after every shot, etc). I'd get the Hakim out and would empty the 10rd mag. By the last round, the offender was usually packing his kit.
ETA: Egyptian Thumb is no fun either. It took a minute to figure out the safety lever situation. At first, I kept getting the bolt locked into the dust cover.
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Re: Apocalsypse Guns ....
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12/02/15 12:21 PM
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For those who have never handled a Ljungman or Hakim...
The action consists of an openly reciprocating bolt and a dust cover. Each comprises 50% of the exposed action. At the rear of the receiver is a safety lever. If placed on safe, the bolt will lock inside the dust cover. If you then place the rifle on fire, it pushing out a little toggle. If you move the bolt/dust cover slightly to the rear it releases the bolt with A LOT OF FORCE.
DO NOT HAVE YOUR FINGERS IN THE ACTION AT THIS TIME.
IT HURTS. A LOT.
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I am now a fictional British television police officer (currently a Detective Sgt) at Thames Valley Station. My governor is Detective Inspector Fred Thursday and it’s 1969.
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Re: Apocalsypse Guns ....
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12/02/15 12:23 PM
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Unbelievable I found a video of this! Start at 1:25: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBKfpDXYBboIt is, frankly, amazing what you can find on the internet. When I owned my last Hakim, I don't think we had internet access available except in the university computer lab
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I am now a fictional British television police officer (currently a Detective Sgt) at Thames Valley Station. My governor is Detective Inspector Fred Thursday and it’s 1969.
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Re: Apocalsypse Guns ....
[Re: Endeavour Morse]
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12/04/15 09:59 PM
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I miss my CETME but it was a hungry beast and 308 isnt cheap.
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Re: Apocalsypse Guns ....
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12/04/15 11:16 PM
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That's part of why I'm going to part with my .308
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Re: Apocalsypse Guns ....
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12/05/15 01:20 AM
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I am seriously debating a 308 AR or a M-1A. I don't know if I will but it would be nice,.
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Re: Apocalsypse Guns ....
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12/05/15 02:31 AM
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Let's see, .308.......Check A .223/5.56...........Check Shotgguns.............Check 45acp.................Check 40S&W.................Check 9mm Carbine...........Check 9mm Pistol(s).........Check 38/357................Check 32acp.................Check 22lr..................Check .177 adult air rifle..Check
I think I'm good on my firearms battery.
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Re: Apocalsypse Guns ....
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12/05/15 03:42 AM
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Private Klink
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That's probably what the BATF thinks too!
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