Personal Survival Kit (Minimum Gear 4 Max Effect)
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Unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately dependent upon your perspective on such issues) we cannot all walk around 24/7 with a GHB (Get Home Bag). Therefore, I've been carrying some form of PSK (Personal Survival Kit) for years. My personally applied maximum size kit is 4"x6"x2". This is small enough to fit in a large pocket, man purse, brief case, jacket pocket, cargo pocket, or even "planner". It is also large enough to hold some basic survival ESSENTIALS.
As a tiny kit, these do not enjoy the luxury of mass scale redundancy and compromise is always required. We all love lists, and hate blanket statements (like I just made) so onto the goods!
FIRE
(1) Bic Butane Lighter (1) Light My Fire Scout Model Ferro Rod with Striker
WATER
(1) 0.5L Platypus Bottle (collapsible water bottle) (1) AquaMira Frontier Filter (suck thru water filter) (6) Katadyn Water Purification Tablets
SHELTER
(20ft) 375 ParaCord (yes, 375. It is much smaller than 550) (1) Emergency Poncho (1) Yard Waste Bin Liner (contractor bags work too. Les Stroud uses them for shelter often) (1) Space Blanket (1 Blanket per PERSONAL Kit). TOOLS
(1) Gatco Dogbone or Triseps (small knife sharpener) (1) USGI P51 (large version of the P38 can opener) (1) Zero Tolerance Folding Knife (usually...0350)
NAV & SIGNALING
(1) County Comm Maratac AA Rev3 Flashlight (1) County Comm Maratac Flashlight "Globe" (1 Spare) Battery (1) Engineer's Compass (1) Fox40 Micro Whistle (wear ear plugs!)
NOTE: I need to find/fabricate a red filter for the flashlight.
FIRST AID / HYGIENE
(5ft) Duct Tape (3) Sanitation Wipes (1) USGI Sealed Adhesive Bandaid
COMMENTS
1) This kit lacks a boiling vessel. I use to store a small stainless tin inside, but it made the pouch feel too bulky. I've chosen to not include a boiling vessel since I have ample water filtration on board.
2) In many ways this is an "E&E" kit. It is small and designed to minimally keep you alive while on the move. I've elected to not include fishing equipment as a result.
3) This kit presumes you're dressed appropriately for the weather/activity you're engaged in. It isn't a comprehensive kit. It is designed to be portable...much like your handgun. I'd much prefer to walk around with a SCAR, but people might be (unnecessarily) alarmed. Therefore, I carry a handgun.
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Re: Personal Survival Kit (Minimum Gear 4 Max Effect)
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I don't carry a survival kit, since Denmark is so densely populated, that you wil never be more than an hours walk away from some kind of civilisation.
However, when I purposefully seek out wilderness in Sweden, my firekit will always concist of 3 means of firelighting:
1: Waterproff matches 2: JEEP lighter 3: ESEE Ferrorod, the handle filled with cotton rubbed in petroleum jelly.
The matches, lighter and petroleum cottomballs are left alone till such a time, when the ferrorod is not enough to light the fire.
Having only one pancake, leaves more room for bacon!
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Re: Personal Survival Kit (Minimum Gear 4 Max Effect)
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I USED to have an altoid tin "Kit" that I've abandoned. I probably need to rectify that and build up another one. I do have this one bag (about 4X7X3 that would make a great kit. I also have a smaller maxped Anemone that would also work I think.
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You know, I could use one of the Bags I got from the Trooper and build up a kit like this and have room for additional items. Throw it all on a nylon belt along with a good knife and sharpener and just leave it in what ever vehicle I am driving that day. Yeah that would work! I could even build up my 511 push pack, which might work even better. I would have room for a SS bottle and a GOOD space blanket.
I like these, with a hood and "Pockets for your hands" Superinsulator SPACE Brand All-weather Blanket. I have one in blue and one in red.
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Re: Personal Survival Kit (Minimum Gear 4 Max Effect)
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(1) County Comm Maratac Flashlight "Globe" Gary, is this what you are talking about? http://countycomm.com/strobetll.html
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Re: Personal Survival Kit (Minimum Gear 4 Max Effect)
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I have a couple smaller bags that I think would work well for this project, and could go all the way up to the 511 Push Pack thereby allowing for even more items to include a freeze dried meal or two, an all weather space blanket and a 25oz SS water bottler in the side pouch. We will see.
I took this from Gary's list and have a few questions.
FIRE 1. Bic Butane Lighter IDEALLY I think I would like the Maratac XL peanut lighter 2. Ferro rod/striker I have along with a container of PJCB
WATER 1. I have a Sawyer Mini that includes a 1 lit platypus style bag 2. I also have a bottle of the purification tablets and have plans to incorporate some Bleach as well.
SHELTER 1. I have 2 all weather space blankets that incorporate a head and hand "Pouches" I have both "Tether" cord and 550 cord 2. I need to get one of those flimsy "Emergency" ponchos. 3. I've got two or three of the Large trash/contractor bags left
TOOLS 1. I have about 4 retractable diamond hones (Smith's and Ez-lap) 2. I've got a half dozen of the P51 openers 3. I think I will use my large GTI folder for this
NAV and SIGNALING 1. Probably my new Sidewinder Compact light, it will always be close to me (or at least in the Jeep or truck, of if with someone else in their vehicle. 2. An area or "Glow" light, I'll need to think about this 3. Need to get a couple battery carriers 4. I have a small silva compass 5. I have one whistle but need to pick up another
FIRST AID/HYGIENE 1. Duct Tape I've got, even some clear packing tape 2. Germ X-Wipes (got a dozen of these) 3. Bandaid/bandage "Kit" need to come up with something.
Well I've got MY list now to work on. What do Y'all think of the additions/substitutions I've made?
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Re: Personal Survival Kit (Minimum Gear 4 Max Effect)
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Not exactly. They use to come with a thimble sized rubberish "globe" that let you use the light like a lantern. The only reason I use the Maratac AA in lieu of a superior Streamlight product is the size. The AA is tiny. The second picture shows the "globe" or "lantern" on... http://www.countycomm.com/aaworldssmallest.html
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I forgot, we also keep space blankets in our PSKs. I can't edit the OP.
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Gary, have you tried the Eagletac D25A? I'm wanting a single AA light and I think I would prefer the clicky Eagletac over the twisty Maratac. I've never handled either one.
Nice to see the P51 in your kit. I also prefer it to the P38.
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Adam, I haven't tried one. Maratac has a click model (or they did). I selected the AA because it is tiny (smallest AA on the market). I pocket carry a Leatherman Serac S3 (click tail cap with three brightness settings) daily. All of my other kits have Streamlight Mil Compact Sidewinders.
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I have a couple smaller bags that I think would work well for this project, and could go all the way up to the 511 Push Pack thereby allowing for even more items to include a freeze dried meal or two, an all weather space blanket and a 25oz SS water bottler in the side pouch. We will see.
I took this from Gary's list and have a few questions.
FIRE 1. Bic Butane Lighter IDEALLY I think I would like the Maratac XL peanut lighter 2. Ferro rod/striker I have along with a container of PJCB
WATER 1. I have a Sawyer Mini that includes a 1 lit platypus style bag 2. I also have a bottle of the purification tablets and have plans to incorporate some Bleach as well.
SHELTER 1. I have 2 all weather space blankets that incorporate a head and hand "Pouches" I have both "Tether" cord and 550 cord 2. I need to get one of those flimsy "Emergency" ponchos. 3. I've got two or three of the Large trash/contractor bags left
TOOLS 1. I have about 4 retractable diamond hones (Smith's and Ez-lap) 2. I've got a half dozen of the P51 openers 3. I think I will use my large GTI folder for this
NAV and SIGNALING 1. Probably my new Sidewinder Compact light, it will always be close to me (or at least in the Jeep or truck, of if with someone else in their vehicle. 2. An area or "Glow" light, I'll need to think about this 3. Need to get a couple battery carriers 4. I have a small silva compass 5. I have one whistle but need to pick up another
FIRST AID/HYGIENE 1. Duct Tape I've got, even some clear packing tape 2. Germ X-Wipes (got a dozen of these) 3. Bandaid/bandage "Kit" need to come up with something.
Well I've got MY list now to work on. What do Y'all think of the additions/substitutions I've made? Randy, No need for more than one P51 or sharpening stone. Duct tape only - packing tape doesn't work in the field (I've tested it). I like the bleach, but have been afraid it'll end up all over my kit and clothes (in a non emergency): Silva is a good compass (my standard brand).
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I am now a fictional British television police officer (currently a Detective Sgt) at Thames Valley Station. My governor is Detective Inspector Fred Thursday and it’s 1969.
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Randy, Remember a PSK isn't nearly as big as a GHB: 12 Germ-X (my brand of choice) will take a lot of space. You and the bride could get by with (3) each for 72 hours. They can be "reactivated" with water after they dry out.
A PSK should be able to be carried discreetly.
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I am now a fictional British television police officer (currently a Detective Sgt) at Thames Valley Station. My governor is Detective Inspector Fred Thursday and it’s 1969.
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Not exactly. They use to come with a thimble sized rubberish "globe" that let you use the light like a lantern. The only reason I use the Maratac AA in lieu of a superior Streamlight product is the size. The AA is tiny. The second picture shows the "globe" or "lantern" on... http://www.countycomm.com/aaworldssmallest.html OK, I've had one of those lights for several years but I never got one of the defusers. OK, I was wrong. I have one of the AAA lights. Now THAT is TINY!
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Yeah I will just use one P51 and I wasn't sure about the packing tape, thanks for the tip. Bleach, yeah I thought about it spilling out as well, but figured I could come up with something to hold it. If not, oh well.
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I forgot, we also keep space blankets in our PSKs. I can't edit the OP.
I edited it for you Gary. Check to make sure I did it right.
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Randy, Remember a PSK isn't nearly as big as a GHB: 12 Germ-X (my brand of choice) will take a lot of space. You and the bride could get by with (3) each for 72 hours. They can be "reactivated" with water after they dry out.
A PSK should be able to be carried discreetly. I wasn't going to put all the quantity in the kit. Just indicated how many I have of them.
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Randy, Remember a PSK isn't nearly as big as a GHB: 12 Germ-X (my brand of choice) will take a lot of space. You and the bride could get by with (3) each for 72 hours. They can be "reactivated" with water after they dry out.
A PSK should be able to be carried discreetly. I wasn't going to put all the quantity in the kit. Just indicated how many I have of them. Basically MY list is just a list of the stuff I COULD , not necessarily will put in the kit.
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Randy, Remember a PSK isn't nearly as big as a GHB: 12 Germ-X (my brand of choice) will take a lot of space. You and the bride could get by with (3) each for 72 hours. They can be "reactivated" with water after they dry out.
A PSK should be able to be carried discreetly. YUP, on the way to work tonight I was rethinking my size on this. I think that what you came up with would be about the biggest for a DISCREET Kit.
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Gary, I think I have everything figured out on your list but this
(1) USGI Sealed Adhesive Bandaid
Can you elaborate on it some?
We've got a gun/knife show coming up the first weekend in March and I think I will look for some stuff there.
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They come in the mil issue IFAK. It's just a normal bandaid, but is in a waterproof little baggy.
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OK, I thought so. I have one of those in the kit I got from the office.
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By checking out the lumens of the Maratac lights, my 3AAA model is only a few behind the 2AA, so I could just use that instead.
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I may be anal retentive on this but a couple questions about items on your list.
1. Why a bic lighter instead of one of the Peanut XL lighters from County Comm? They will hold a lot of easily obtained conventional zippo lighter fluid plus they seal up with O rings and shouldn't leak out any of the fluid. 2. P51 opener Vs the P38? 3. Why just 5 ft of Duct Tape? 4. 3 Germ-X wipes? Seems a strange number.
There probably isn't a real answer to these questions besides "Just what I settled on", but perhaps not. I'm just curious.
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I may be anal retentive on this but a couple questions about items on your list.
1. Why a bic lighter instead of one of the Peanut XL lighters from County Comm? They will hold a lot of easily obtained conventional zippo lighter fluid plus they seal up with O rings and shouldn't leak out any of the fluid. 2. P51 opener Vs the P38? 3. Why just 5 ft of Duct Tape? 4. 3 Germ-X wipes? Seems a strange number, maybe just because we are (Normally) used to dealing in pairs or even numbers not odd.
There probably isn't a real answer to these questions besides "Just what I settled on", but perhaps not. I'm just curious.
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Patty said that I need to go the big gun and knife show here next weekend. WOOHOO, I might go seeing as how we just got our tax refund!
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Hey Guys, I just had an AH HA event.
It dawned on me that IF you want to carry a Kit like Gary talks about you could find a fantastic Clandestine bag in the form of a small Bible Case! You can find them in sizes just about what Gary recommended and they usually have some sort of religious symbol/words on them and would be great for carrying a kit. I might have to see what is available locally.
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Randy, I've had mixed results from peanut lighters. Bic is a trusted brand but still has to be tested (they don't always work).
P51 is larger and easier to use.
This kit has to be SMALL so less tape. I've chaired more but it takes space and weighs a lot.
1 wipe per day for 72 hours.
Remember this is suppose to fit in your pocket.
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OK, makes sense.
1. I was just thinking the Bic might become activated in the bag in some way and leak out all the butane. BUT you can always wrap a rubber band under the "Safety Lever" to keep it from being pressed down. 2. Duct tape (If you get the wide roll) can be torn in half or smaller and create a lot of taping power. 3. I also like the P51 Vs the P38, it is yes, easier to use. 4. I was thinking the wipes were more for disinfecting than just cleaning.
AND you reminded me again that it is supposed to be a POCKET kit. I keep trying to prepare for everything. Doh!
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Grey Ghost Gear has a Slim-line admin pouch that looks nice. Here are the dimensions.
Measurements:
5" Tall 5.75" Wide 2.5" Deep
Nice looking pouch and I think it wouldn't be to much bigger than Gary's max size, and it's a clam-shell type pouch.
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Re: Personal Survival Kit (Minimum Gear 4 Max Effect)
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Gary, what do you recommend, a full clam-shell type pouch or a top loader, and do you prefer a horizontal or Vertical pouch?
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Re: Personal Survival Kit (Minimum Gear 4 Max Effect)
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03/02/16 06:59 AM
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I am seriously leaning toward this one, just want to make sure I won't be hindering myself by not getting a clam-shell pouch. http://www.maxpedition.com/store/pc/5-x-7-x-2-Horizontal-GP-Pouch-Low-Profile-116p767.htmActually though it probably wouldn't matter. This will not be a Rapid access type of equipment. Maybe this one would be about the best size wise.
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Re: Personal Survival Kit (Minimum Gear 4 Max Effect)
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03/04/16 09:08 AM
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Spent most of the night checking out pouches for a small large pocket PSK. I think I have settled on a 6x4x2 or a 5.5 by 3.75 by 2.5 inch pouch. Still unsure which one I actually want.
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Re: Personal Survival Kit (Minimum Gear 4 Max Effect)
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03/14/16 09:39 PM
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My Problem is I try to figure out every contingency and prepare for it. These Kits aren't designed for that so I need Guidance and that is just what I am getting from this and your new revised thread. Plus there are a FEW things I could add on my own.
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Re: Personal Survival Kit (Minimum Gear 4 Max Effect)
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04/01/16 03:46 AM
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Well I've got the bag pouch thing completed. Settled on the Maxpedition Malaga for an EDC Small EMERGENCY bag. AND a Maxpedition Fatty organizer (mainly cause I got it for $14.95) ! I am thinking REAL seriously about putting my Chris Reeve Umnumzaan in the organizer. It's a sturdy knife, using S35VM steel at an RC of 59-60 and a blade length of 3.7 inches. It's a Hoss and should work in the Organizer nicely.
I'm still kinda up in the air about a blade for the Malaga. I WANT to use my War dog Or S5, still can't decide which one for sure. BUT under the thinking of dual purpose, I have a Mora knife with a ferro rod built into the handle that is a nice knife that would be a nice touch but an actual rod/striker/magnesium rod wouldn't take up all that much room. Decisions decisions.
I'm pretty satisfied with the other stuff I plan on using in the Malaga and Organizer but will still hem haw around until I actually get them filled. Guess that's part of the fun in building up new kits.
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Re: Personal Survival Kit (Minimum Gear 4 Max Effect)
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04/01/16 04:20 AM
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I was just thinking about one thing we haven't or haven't talked about that much is REQUIRED maintenance medications. HOW do we carry them and how many days worth do we carry?
Do we carry them in an amber colored bottle like we get from the pharmacy or in individual (daily) doses? Do we carry them in "Food saver" sealed packets? What is the shelf life of our meds?
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Re: Personal Survival Kit (Minimum Gear 4 Max Effect)
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04/01/16 04:04 PM
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Randy, I've used both and settled on a Clam Shell. It isn't as secure, but prevents having to dump everything out to find that one item you're looking for.
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Re: Personal Survival Kit (Minimum Gear 4 Max Effect)
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I was just thinking about one thing we haven't or haven't talked about that much is REQUIRED maintenance medications. HOW do we carry them and how many days worth do we carry? Just say no. I'm 100% drug free (don't even take Advil or Tylenol) so I've not considered this issue.
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Re: Personal Survival Kit (Minimum Gear 4 Max Effect)
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04/01/16 04:11 PM
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My Problem is I try to figure out every contingency and prepare for it. These Kits aren't designed for that so I need Guidance and that is just what I am getting from this and your new revised thread. Plus there are a FEW things I could add on my own. Its easy to over stuff a kit (regardless of the size). Gear Creep is a common issue. At one point, around ten years ago, my Bug Out Bag weighed 89 pounds. E I G H T Y N I N E P O U N D S My BOB weighs 31 pounds now. I've been asked to evaluate and analyze other people's kits many many many times over the years, and a few common mistakes always happen: 1) Low quality gear where they shouldn't have tried to save money (typically knives and first aid); 2) Too much redundancy. If we all had pack mules that followed us around it would be okay to have 8 lighters, 6 mess kits, 22 rolls of toilet paper, and a blow up matress, but we don't so pick your redundant items carefully. Redundancy is ONLY WARRANTED in the Core 3: Fire, Water, Shelter Making. Knives fall under all three categories. 3) Unnecessary gear. This is usually a result of overthinking the issue, lack of experience or knowledge, and thinking survival is like a hiking or camping trip. THRIVING is a hiking or camping trip. SURVIVING is getting by until the situation improves. Each requires an entirely different type of planning.
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Re: Personal Survival Kit (Minimum Gear 4 Max Effect)
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04/01/16 04:14 PM
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Another common problem is pet-hobby packing.
Some people, for example, are gadget geeks so they have two SAK and two Multi-Tools in their kit. In 32 years of hiking, survival training and experimentation, and training I have never ONCE used or needed or wanted a multitool.
Some people, for example, are tech geeks so they have a pair of solar chargers to prep batteries for gear they don't need. The only battery powered device needed is a flashlight. I don't even advocate battery powered radios in EXTENSIVE LONG TERM kits. Get a wind up.
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I am now a fictional British television police officer (currently a Detective Sgt) at Thames Valley Station. My governor is Detective Inspector Fred Thursday and it’s 1969.
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