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what happened to swamp rat? #17884 02/12/07 05:54 PM
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SO I thought I would pose the question. IF you want the best get a busse combat knife (INFI). it has better corrosion resistance, it is stronger, and has good edge retention when compared to sr101.
If you want a better deal then scrap yard is the way to go. SR77 seems to be tougher than sr101 and I hear it is more resistant to staining as well. It is also alot cheaper.

So what do we need swamp rat knives for? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Re: what happened to swamp rat? [Re: scrappy] #17885 02/12/07 06:08 PM
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It is an interesting question but I think it is good that there is a Swamp Rat.
SR started out a lot like Scrapyard in that they made knives out of cheaper steel than INFI and used RES C handles. After a while though the line developed and they moved a bit upmarket to micarta handles and more exotic designs. They were not as expensive as Busse but they were not the bargain they used to be. In the end it turned out that SR was an exellent middle ground between Busse and Scrapyard.


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Re: what happened to swamp rat? [Re: scrappy] #17886 02/12/07 06:19 PM
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I will always have a fond place in my heart for Swamp Rat. They were my first exposure to "REAL" high performance knives and my gateway drug to INFI.

I may be a Dog now, but I am still a Rat.

Re: what happened to swamp rat? [Re: Rich] #17887 02/12/07 06:38 PM
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I'm glad that we have all three, but I understand where your coming from. Right now, I own 3 rats (Battle Rat, Howling Rat & Rat Shaker I), 3 Busses (CGFBM, Black/DC GW, and SK), and 1 Dog (Scrapper 6). I've got a Dog Father on order and can't wait. I've found that I prefer Res C on my Rats after buying and selling a M6 and Little Mischief. I'm sure there are those that prefer the Micarta and that's what's great about America, choices:)

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Re: what happened to swamp rat? #17889 02/12/07 07:11 PM
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I think that Swamprat represents a middle ground between Scrapyard and Busse. While Scrapyard appears to offer most of its knives in SR77 it may not be a better steel than SR 101. It simply depends on the application. SR-77 is a better impact steel, however SR-101 hold its edge better. So depending on what you're going to do, you choose the tool to follow.

I don't like the new Swamprat line. I much prefer the older line where the knives appeared to be more functional, utilitarian, and simple yet effective designs. I do like the Scrapyard line, cause it reminds me of the old Swamprat line.

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Re: what happened to swamp rat? [Re: Jerrwhy] #17890 02/12/07 07:34 PM
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Remember that SR101 is a modified 52100 steel. This steel is a favorite wth custom knifemakers for it's overall cutting abilities and fine grain. It definitely has better edge holding than SR77. In it's differentially treated state it is not far behind INFI or SR77 and for hammering it's spine it may be better as it is softer in the spine than the oters giving it more impact absorbtion. Really at this point you are talking which knife you like the looks of most, more so than what is better. They are all so good that you will never know the difference.

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Re: what happened to swamp rat? #17892 02/12/07 09:04 PM
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They are all so good that you will never know the difference.
Except in your pocketbook, of course !!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

LOL.....yup. I can't wait for scrapyard to use thru hardenned SR101 in it's smaller knives like the scrapper 4. It will make an awesome cutter.

Re: what happened to swamp rat? [Re: scrappy] #17893 02/12/07 09:10 PM
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That's a legitimate question in my opinion!

I have to agree with a few others, I also have a soft spot for Swamp Rat, and they were also my introduction to high performance fixed blade knives.

Also the comment of non-Infi Busse knife with Micarta handles..... good comment.

Now the Dog Father at that price really got my attention! $139.99 for that beast of a knife. Dang. I wasn't really paying attention to Scrap Yard knives all that much, but then they came out with the Dog Father at that incredible price. I had to get two! That knife really got my attention. Scrap Yard is really going to spoil me with these prices.

Re: what happened to swamp rat? [Re: Jerrwhy] #17894 02/12/07 09:43 PM
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I don't like the new Swamprat line. I much prefer the older line where the knives appeared to be more functional, utilitarian, and simple yet effective designs. I do like the Scrapyard line, cause it reminds me of the old Swamprat line.
Me too!

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WOOFSQUOINK!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I love 'em all <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />


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