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Re: Rainbow Coalition [Re: Evolute] #189439 06/15/09 04:08 AM
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I bet there were a lot of wielders' hands sliced early in the days of the dagger, if they were sharp enough to slice. Are you seriously dreaming about knapping, Evo? Did you recently see some caveman movie or something?

Yes, seriously. I picked up about 30 pounds of obsidian on a recent outing, to learn knapping.

Wow! That should be a very interesting experiment. If nothing else, I would think that the process would be very therapeutic, like the generic sharpening process, but with a much more visible outcome.


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Re: Rainbow Coalition [Re: CruelRaoul] #189440 06/15/09 04:09 AM
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I would like to see the result.


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Re: Rainbow Coalition [Re: Boots] #189441 06/15/09 04:10 AM
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Re: Rainbow Coalition [Re: Boots] #189442 06/15/09 04:11 AM
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Re: Rainbow Coalition [Re: Boots] #189443 06/15/09 04:13 AM
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Ok 6 more then I hit 700 and then I am off to bed.


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Re: Rainbow Coalition [Re: Boots] #189444 06/15/09 04:16 AM
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boots you know where Lamoni is?


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Re: Rainbow Coalition [Re: mcjhrobinson] #189445 06/15/09 04:17 AM
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I have no idea.


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Re: Rainbow Coalition [Re: Boots] #189446 06/15/09 04:18 AM
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Just a short hike.

I figured I better get a lot; I'm sure I'll make a lot of mistakes as I learn.

Re: Rainbow Coalition [Re: Evolute] #189447 06/15/09 04:19 AM
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Have you guys seen the knives Jerry Busse made, to mimic obsidian knives, in his early days?

Re: Darkmatter Supremacy [Re: CruelRaoul] #189448 06/15/09 04:22 AM
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I bet there were a lot of wielders' hands sliced early in the days of the dagger, if they were sharp enough to slice.

They were certainly sharp enough to slice. Obsidian and flint cutting edges are equal to, or better than, modern surgical tools (until they wear down in use, which happens fast because they're delicate). I haven't made myself a copper knife yet, but I have experimentally taken a sheet of copper and pounded an edge onto it (using two rocks); not as sharp as my modern steel belt knife, but still readily capable of slicing flesh.

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A word of caution if you didn't know this already: Once you start knapping, keep track of all the debris you're making. Every piece you knock off is a razor-edged disaster in the waiting! Most knappers seem to work over a leather ground cloth, and at the end of the session dump the debris into a bury pit to keep it out of the way.

Re: Rainbow Coalition [Re: Evolute] #189449 06/15/09 04:22 AM
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Here's one:

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I bet there were a lot of wielders' hands sliced early in the days of the dagger, if they were sharp enough to slice.

They were certainly sharp enough to slice. Obsidian and flint cutting edges are equal to, or better than, modern surgical tools (until they wear down in use, which happens fast because they're delicate). I haven't made myself a copper knife yet, but I have experimentally taken a sheet of copper and pounded an edge onto it (using two rocks); not as sharp as my modern steel belt knife, but still readily capable of slicing flesh.

Evo, a word of caution if you didn't know this already: Once you start knapping, keep track of all the debris you're making. Every piece you knock off is a razor-edged disaster in the waiting! Most knappers seem to work over a leather ground cloth, and at the end of the session dump the debris into a bury pit to keep it out of the way.

Thanks, Momaw. I will keep that in mind.

Obsidian can take an edge 500 times sharper than steel can, but, as you noted, it doesn't last as long.

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