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Re: So What's Next? [Re: Unsub] #193108 12/06/07 09:07 PM
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I found this on another web site. It list the steel type for the Camillus Beckers.

Becker Knife and Tool designs use, 0170-6 high carbon tool steel which has been specially selected to give the Becker Knife and Tool line clear superiority in the edge-holding and toughness departments among its chief competitors.

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Re: So What's Next? [Re: Unsub] #193110 12/06/07 09:32 PM
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That was a clever catch BLD522. I do like that CarbonV stuff and it can only be better with a busse heat treat. What is the Cammilus name for that steel? I believe it has quite a few letters and numbers?
I bet buying a bunch of Cammilus steel and having to carry it would have hurt the old back as well.

I have this thread bookmarked. My BRKT Northwinds are made from 0170-6 steel

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3652898

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The following information came straight from Mike Stewart emailed to me personally. I've always held on to it.

"CV--Chorme Vanadium Steel used by Case for many years and Carbon V are the very same steel.

It is 0170-6 cutlery Steel...It was developed in the 1950's by sharon Steel specifically for Knives.

It is an enhanced 1095. They added Nickel--Chromium and a trace of Vanadium. it was a patented steel of Sharon.

Everybody used it. it was called by cute names by some companies --Chrome-Vanadium by others.

This was the original Steel chosen by both Lynn Thomson for his Trailmaster and Mike Stewart for the Old Mamba. Everyone used it until 1988.

Sharon Steel went Bankrupt in 1988. No mill would duplicate the steel because the patent was still in effect.

For a time everyone switched to other steels.

A few years back Case and Camillus found a mill that would duplicate the Chemistry of the old CV steel and they ordered a crap load of it.

Case had thier portion of the heat lot rolled to pocket knife sizes and Camillius had thier portion rolled to use for Lynn on his U.S. made knives and the Becker line.

This is an excellent cutlery steel and will out perform 1095."


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Re: So What's Next? [Re: tedwca] #193111 12/06/07 09:35 PM
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Oh and this one to. Notice the numbers and letters!

http://www.cutleryscience.com/reviews/blade_materials.html#C_50100B


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Re: So What's Next? #193113 12/06/07 09:44 PM
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If it matters, I had found the following on the web a few years ago and have it saved (with other info):

"Carbon V is a trademarked term by Cold Steel, and as such is not
necessarily one particular kind of steel; rather, it describes
whatever steel Cold Steel happens to be using, and there is an
indication they do change steels from time to time. Carbon V performs
roughly between 1095-ish and O-1-ish, in my opinion, and rusts like
O-1 as well. I've heard rumors that Carbon V is O-1 (which I now
think is unlikely) or 1095. Numerous industry insiders
insist it is 0170-6. Some spark tests done by a rec.knives reader
seem to point the finger at 50100-B. Since 50100-B and 0170-6 are the
same steel (see below), this is likely the current Carbon V.

0170-6 - 50100-B
These are different designations for the same steel: 0170-6 is the
steel makers classification, 50100-B is the AISI designation. A good
chrome-vanadium steel that is somewhat similar to O-1, but much less
expensive. The now-defunct Blackjack made several knives from O170-6,
and Carbon V may be 0170-6. 50100 is basically 52100 with about 1/3
the chromium of 52100, and the B in 50100-B indicates that the steel
has been modified with vanadium, making this a chrome-vanadium steel.
"


But, I am not making any assumptions about Dan's next blade offering, let alone type of steel he uses. - NO TELLING.... other than it will be tough.


I would be interested in an SS3 with mudder grips or SS7 with a Chopweiler shaped blade. I prefer the Chopweiler shape over clip point myself.

Satin for me - CG for Bruce.


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Oh and this one to. Notice the numbers and letters!

http://www.cutleryscience.com/reviews/blade_materials.html#C_50100B

Ted, you beat me to it while I was typing....

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I'd still like a good old traditional sr77 S7 in tan- well an INFI S7 will sadly never happen (but a 440C (or similar) SS4 would be very good too!)


JYD #3 Poor, but still dreaming of a sage and black SOD CG...
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Chopweiler pointed S7?? Superb idea! Making a great knife even better..


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Re: So What's Next? #193117 12/06/07 09:59 PM
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By jove, I think we've got it! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> Here comes the Busse Becker !!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />


I don't know that I would go around combining Becker with Busse products (????)....

"If" ... (stress on "If") ... Busse purchased some 50100-B "stock" material steel from another company, Busse would still be doing their own heat treating and design.

So, no real connection to Becker or Camillus other than using the same type of raw steel that they may have just purchased as raw materials from another maker at a discount instead of two makers purchasing the same materials from a wholeseller of raw stock steel.

Other knife makers use 52-100 as well, but we don't connect Swamp Rat to others.

Bark River used 0170-6 on their Northwind and Golok, but we don't tie them to Cold Steel Carbon V.

The heat treatment and end design are significant distinguishing factors.

I probably beat this more than needed and I am sure Bruce was just joking, but I feel we should keep any mention of Becker, Camillus, Carbon V or other similar terms out of discussions about "possible" or even if and when actual knives are made by Busse with 0170-6.

Where the raw material "may" have been purchased is not really significant or relevant to the end product.


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Re: So What's Next? [Re: cfreak] #193118 12/06/07 10:02 PM
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A short scrapyard sword would be good or perhaps a machette type blade.
I think it would be an interesting addition to the scrapyard family.


What ... like this with say a 15" blade?:

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Chopweiler pointed S7?? Superb idea! Making a great knife even better..

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