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 A bit of an odd question
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03/16/08 06:26 PM
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My fellow dogs,
This question has been itching my neck for a long time.
Do you guys know if Res-C is electroshock proof? And to how many volts?
I guess it might be considering that it is similar to rubber (santoprene, etc).
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Re: A bit of an odd question
[Re: Sharp]
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03/16/08 06:31 PM
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Kraz
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I've not seen any insulation breakdown test results for Res-C. It seems very inert. The challenge is keeping your hand away from the lanyard hole/tube which runs through the rear of the tang inside the Res-C. If you have an ohmmeter you can check the contact resistance. I'd measure it for you but most of my tools are in storage <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
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Re: A bit of an odd question
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03/16/08 06:37 PM
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Thanks Kraz,
Wouldn't be much of problem keeping your hand away from the lanyard hole.
Unfortunately, I don't have an ohmmeter. Do you think you could dig it out yours and check to the electrical resistance?
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Re: A bit of an odd question
[Re: Sharp]
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03/16/08 07:26 PM
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Kraz
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Sorry Sharp, storage in my case means a POD in a warehouse in Austin, Texas while I live in Los Gatos, CA now. I would expect the Res-C resistance to be in excess of 10's of millions of ohms of resistance, enough that even the equipment I have wouldn't measure it accurately. That said, I would still measure it before trusting it with life threatening voltages and currents.
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Re: A bit of an odd question
[Re: Kraz]
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03/16/08 08:26 PM
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WhichDawg
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I just checked, on a regular handle, I used the Yard Keeper, their was contact between the lanyard hole and the blade.
On the SS4, their was no contact. Understand these are my blades, others may be
different so make sure to check yours before deciding anything but I was surprised!
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Re: A bit of an odd question
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03/16/08 08:39 PM
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That's ok Kraz,
I don't think I would have anyway of testing it on my own. I might do a little research on the chemical composition of Res-C and compare to that of various other insulating materials.
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Re: A bit of an odd question
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03/16/08 09:19 PM
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eatingmuchface
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can't you just like cut a live electric cable... and pray... I'm pretty sure that will tell you. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
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Re: A bit of an odd question
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03/16/08 09:45 PM
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Right EMF... you go ahead and do that... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
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Re: A bit of an odd question
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03/16/08 10:35 PM
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eatingmuchface
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hey, your the onle that wants to know, not me. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
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Re: A bit of an odd question
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03/16/08 10:43 PM
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My very simple thoughts on this matter: The rivet is a conductor. We have no way knowing if the coating between the rivet & the blade is compromised or gets compromised during use. Because of that, if due to field expediency, you needed to use a scrap yard on a live wire find another way to insulate yourself & don't trust the knife. Be it making a bit of a poleaxe & lashing the handling to an insulator or something else. Anything else and it will be a crap shoot which could lead to serious injuries. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
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Re: A bit of an odd question
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03/16/08 10:56 PM
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My very simple thoughts on this matter: The rivet is a conductor. We have no way knowing if the coating between the rivet & the blade is compromised or gets compromised during use. Because of that, if due to field expediency, you needed to use a scrap yard on a live wire find another way to insulate yourself & don't trust the knife. Be it making a bit of a poleaxe & lashing the handling to an insulator or something else. Anything else and it will be a crap shoot which could lead to serious injuries. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> OR DEATH!!!!! I bet Res-C is fine, it is just that lanyard bushing that others already mentioned. I only know of one knife that advertised compleat insulition from the blade and that was the Gerber LMF they had a picture of one that a US sniper had used to cut big eletrical cords that were going to a search light aimed on finding him and his spotter, the blade had a big melted chunk out of the center but he was alive to tell the story.
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Re: A bit of an odd question
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03/16/08 11:05 PM
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ColdOne
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I would have no doubt about ResC being a great insulator, however the protection is only as good as the weakest link.
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