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08/14/08 11:49 PM
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Knifeguy you are the man! i am a sharpening nut. I like convex edges for some types of knives and standard edges for others. One of the most useful tools I have is the dremel with little circles of sandpaper. ![[Linked Image from i529.photobucket.com]](http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd337/Unsubb/P7020065.jpg) Thanks Unsub. I have heard from multiple knife-makers that those VERY high speed Dremels can cause hot spots on the thin edge of a blade and potentially damage the heat treat (?????????) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> I would be careful with that thing. .
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Re: Sharpening Thread
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08/14/08 11:50 PM
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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> I have about an hours worth of videos on sharpening with a belt sander posted here. There might be something useful in there. BTW, I just picked up one of those KMG's <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> Those are VERY good vids Brian - You Da Man. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> We need vids of that KMG in action!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crossfingers.gif" alt="" /> .
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Re: Sharpening Thread
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08/14/08 11:54 PM
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Hey Knifeguy,
That is one fine looking stropping paddle! Yes. I like it. Many thanks for your help. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> Now I just need a Kalamazoo or a KMG. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crossfingers.gif" alt="" /> - some day..... .
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Re: Sharpening Thread
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08/15/08 12:08 AM
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wow
i think my brain is going to explode!
awesome info in this thread Mine, too. If I had known it was this complicated, I would never have started using a belt sander. The information is all good, though. I have only ruined a few inexpensive knives while learning this stuff. It is easier to do than it is to describe accurately. Like walking. We do many things instinctively without really thinking about it. Like I naturally feel that more pressure on the belt means more convex and also more heat and more material removed. Also the closer to the wheel, the less flex and less convex. My full convexed ASH1 took me 8 hours. The math formulas to describe the exact shape of the final grind are mind boggling. But the process of doing it was very organic and natural for me. Ummmm ... sorry for a bunch of long posts. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> It isn't complicated once you get the hang of it. But, I think a bunch of people would likely mess up knives in the beginning without practice and a few tips. Like riding a bike, once you get it, you get it. I don't want to scare people from using a belt sander. I just don't want to hear people are ruining $$$$$'s of knives. Vic, even you will admit, your first attempts were not exactly pretty.... nor were mine. The best advice by far is to practice on a few junker cheapies first. Different sizes and different belly types. Watching videos like Brian's is easier and less intimidating than my long posts. At least I don't do (or describe) long mind boggling math formulas! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> .
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Re: Sharpening Thread
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08/15/08 12:11 AM
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I like your long posts just fine, KG. Like I said, good information. Get some cheap machetes and go for it!
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Re: Sharpening Thread
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08/15/08 12:14 AM
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KG,
your post are very informative.
keep up the good work!
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Re: Sharpening Thread
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08/16/08 05:09 AM
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I am also a fan of knifeguys posts. It would be different if they were long winded AND bad info but it is all pretty useful. I was "into knives" for a long time before I learned how edges actually work and how much better a sharp one really is.
About the Dremel while you can heat up the work going to fast with the wrong bit using it for polishing at a speed that won't rip the disk of 200 grit sandpaper up is pretty hard. Even thick 60 grit disks don't heat up enough to hurt the heat treat.
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Re: Sharpening Thread
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08/16/08 08:20 AM
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crpoc, that is probably the best price I have seen on a Kalamazoo. It has been a little while since I bought my KG, but I swear I paid $199 for it. I bought it local and Production Tool Supply. There was one near where I worked and I didn't have to pay shipping. I am not sure how much shipping is on them, but it can't be tool cheap. Long way of saying, you might want to look in to the more "commercial" tool supply companies (like Production Tool).
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Re: Sharpening Thread
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08/16/08 08:21 AM
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Hey Knifeguy,
That is one fine looking stropping paddle! Yes. I like it. Many thanks for your help. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> Now I just need a Kalamazoo or a KMG. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crossfingers.gif" alt="" /> - some day..... . I am glad you liked those. Now looking back there are probably a few tweaks I would do, and some little details I forgot. But, they were a lot of work! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" /> I really don't want to go back and re-do them <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Sharpening Thread
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08/16/08 02:31 PM
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I am glad you liked those. Now looking back there are probably a few tweaks I would do, and some little details I forgot. But, they were a lot of work! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" /> I really don't want to go back and re-do them <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Come on now..... Now that you have a KMG, you have to make a video of you doing something with a knife on the KMG. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crossfingers.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> You don't have to redo "all" of your vids. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> .
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Re: Sharpening Thread
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If I do a KMG video, it will be a whole knife grind <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> Not just a simple sharpening <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Sharpening Thread
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If I do a KMG video, it will be a whole knife grind <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> Not just a simple sharpening <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
Brian Even better! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> .
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