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Re: Poll: What's Your Favorite Dumpster Mutt ??? #220213 04/16/08 03:10 PM
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The RMDs handle is sized between their standard full-sized tactical and the Little Michief handles -- it's their "Baby Bear" handle (just right).
That's good to know, Jim. I thought the RMD handle and the HRLM handle were the same size. But then I don't own an HRLM and I've never seen a pic of the RMD and HRLM side by side. Maybe someone who owns both knives would be willing to post one (hint, hint <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> ).

It's not my pics (I don't have a HRLM either), but I remembered this BladeForums post by quicksdraw right after Knob Creek:
Well My meager acquisition from the Knob.
Eric told me that that were different, but looking at them side-by-side, I think you're right -- they sure look the same. Perhaps I misunderstood what Eric was saying, or he misunderstood what I was asking.


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Re: Poll: What's Your Favorite Dumpster Mutt ??? #220215 04/16/08 04:46 PM
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I had to vote for the RMD.

But, honestly, even though there are a significant number of similarities, the RMD is different enough in over-all size to classify as a different knife and not a variation (IMO).

A lot of people think the DM and RMD have the same blade length and if you measure from the handle material, it is real close. But, this is not a realistic way to compare blade lengths with these two knives. The Res-C doesn't extend very far onto the tang whereas the micarta on the RMD extends a lot further - making how you calculate blade length very different from reality in this case. If you measure from the back side of the guard by the index finger and change the term to "blade reach", the RMD actually has about 0.4375" longer blade "reach".
And with a longer handle, the RMD is almost 1.0" longer oal.

RMD OAL: 10.4375"
DMCG: 9.45"


If not for the RMD, I would have voted for the DMCG - mainly because it is unique - fat and thick. Otherwise, RMD hands down. Sorry Yard.

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Re: Poll: What's Your Favorite Dumpster Mutt ??? [Re: KnifeGuy] #220216 04/16/08 04:57 PM
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I don't mean to slam a particular Scrap Yard knife, the owners of said knife or those who voted for it, but I fail to understand the enthusiasm of the MOD <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> ..... O.K. ..... I can't resist.........: <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/barf.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/barf.gif" alt="" />



..... combat bread knife???? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

..... for those who like to saw instead of cut ????? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

..... for those who like a "LOT" of limitations in their knife ?????? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />


Maybe I am missing something. I didn't want to mention this back when people were getting themselves pumped up to purchase and receive their MOD's, but now that the hysteria has (possibly) calmed, I have to pose the question to owners of the MOD:


Why?

What am I missing here?

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Re: Poll: What's Your Favorite Dumpster Mutt ??? [Re: Jim] #220217 04/16/08 05:39 PM
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The RMDs handle is sized between their standard full-sized tactical and the Little Michief handles -- it's their "Baby Bear" handle (just right).
That's good to know, Jim. I thought the RMD handle and the HRLM handle were the same size. But then I don't own an HRLM and I've never seen a pic of the RMD and HRLM side by side. Maybe someone who owns both knives would be willing to post one (hint, hint <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> ).

It's not my pics (I don't have a HRLM either), but I remembered this BladeForums post by quicksdraw right after Knob Creek:
Well My meager acquisition from the Knob.
Eric told me that that were different, but looking at them side-by-side, I think you're right -- they sure look the same. Perhaps I misunderstood what Eric was saying, or he misunderstood what I was asking.



The HRLM and RMD have pretty much identical handles in every way until you get forward of the guard and the thumb ramp areas. The handles have identical length, height, and contours on both knives if both are micarta.

However, my micarta scales on my RMD are a little thicker and have a little less radiusing. So, the RMD is just slightly thick.

But, for some strange reason, the G10 scales on the RMD are a little more slender and with more radiusing. The G10 scales on my RMD are much more like the scales on my HRLM. I prefer the contouring and feel of my HRLM and G10 RMD by a small fraction.
I like the quality, fit, finish and look of my G10 by a MILE over the micarta. But, I like the light weight of the micarta. - compromises....
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The thumb ramps are pretty much the same, just different on the blade sides of the thumb ramp. But, since my thumb naturally fits/falls on the blade side of the thumb ramp, I find this relevant.

On the RMD, on the blade side of the ramp, the spine is flat on the blade side. The Factory design is quite good and comfy for me.

On the HRLM, on the blade side of the ramp, there is what I would call a "Thumb index" - more of a notch for your thumb. Then the blade spine rises and arches higher on the HRLM than the spine on the RMD. I have made a few mods to my HRLM that make it feel better to me. The "notch"/"Thumb index" on the HRLM was to small and restrictive for me, so I lengthened the thumb index towards the spine and created a continuous slope up the spine of the blade. I like the feel of it a lot this way.

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The guards and choils are different between the HRLM and RMD.

The RMD has a slightly wider guard and a functional finger choil.
The HRLM has a choil that is too small to be functional as a finger choil (like too many smaller Busse knives <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banghead.gif" alt="" />). However, a common modification on the HRLM is to slightly grind out the choil to make it functional. At least with the HRLM (unlike the smaller Busse's with their Talon Holes), the choil "can" be ground out to be made functional. Personally, I ground mine into the guard and as close to the normal grip as I could without wasting blade edge.


Some (borrowed) pics (notice the size of the factory choil is too small for functional use and too large for a sharpening choil - But, again, at least this can be fixed/modified on the HRLM!):

[Linked Image from i80.photobucket.com]

[Linked Image from i80.photobucket.com]


I beleive these are Vic's (* Notice, it appears Vic ground the choil on his HRLM to be larger and functional. It appears Vic ground the choil forward into the blade - vs. I ground my choil back into the guard. And it looks like he also lengthened the thumb index notch - similar to mine, but he left it more of a "notch" whereas I blended the front side of mine into a continuous slope up and over the spine.):

[Linked Image from i80.photobucket.com]


For the record, I feel both the RMD and the HRLM are two VERY fine knives! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif" alt="" />

The RMD doesn't need hardly any real modifications short of (sadly.... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banghead.gif" alt="" /> ) the common needed improvements: stripping the coating <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> and some edge refinements.

The HRLM needs a couple of modifications, but both modifications are pretty simple in my book. The Choil is a "must" fix IMO. And the Thumb ramp needed to be fixed for me, but maybe not for others. Then of course the common stuff ( <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banghead.gif" alt="" /> ) stripping the coating <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> and some edge refinements.




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Re: Poll: What's Your Favorite Dumpster Mutt ??? [Re: KnifeGuy] #220218 04/16/08 08:54 PM
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I voted for the MOD; I've carried a partially serrated/combo edged blade as my primary pocket knife for more than a decade, first a zytel handled Puma ProTec, then a G10/S30V Kershaw Leek. For most cutting tasks, I use the front half of the blade, but when I need to cut something tough or fibrous material, I like having serrations for aggressive cutting. To each their own, but I think the serrations are a feature that enhance my options rather than a limiting them. Additionally, it's rare, which enhances its value to me. I wasn't sure I'd like it when I ordered mine from the Razorganzaaaaa, but I did -- I liked it enough that I bought three more on the secondary market.


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Re: Poll: What's Your Favorite Dumpster Mutt ??? [Re: Jim] #220219 04/16/08 09:36 PM
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The mod is awesome!

I love mine.
It isnt disigned for woods tasks, more for rescue.
I think chopper pilots ordered them.


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Re: Poll: What's Your Favorite Dumpster Mutt ??? [Re: Jim] #220220 04/16/08 09:43 PM
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Very well said Knifeguy.

I personally really like the G-10 RMDs. First, the smooth touch of the G-10 and second, the extra heft that it gives the knife compared to micarta.

I honestly don't see anything wrong with the coating, maybe it's just me. I personally don't mind coatings but yes, non coatings are more easily cleanable. I just think the coating gives the knife some character after hard use.

I wish I was able to get the 2007 Special Edition of the FBM in DC but sadly I couldn't.

Hmmmm... Think of an LE Mandu with a Satin Finish (and maybe INFI, for stainlessness [yea this isn't a word but what the heck])... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> Now that would be the closest thing to perfection.


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Maybe these cellphone pics I just took of my MOD7 will change your mind.
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Re: Poll: What's Your Favorite Dumpster Mutt ??? [Re: macgregor] #220222 04/16/08 10:11 PM
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Maybe if I had a MOD7 I'd change my mind. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Then again, I really don't think I could unless I didn't have my RMD. The handles on the RMD are just perfect for my in every position ranging from a working to reverse to fighting.


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Re: Poll: What's Your Favorite Dumpster Mutt ??? [Re: Sharp] #220223 04/16/08 10:49 PM
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I just got a MOD7 because of the limited availablity. i dont care for serrations


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Re: Poll: What's Your Favorite Dumpster Mutt ??? [Re: VANCE] #220224 04/17/08 06:08 PM
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Hi,
I've several questions regarding DMDC ( i bought one recently ,but I still waiting for the package )

1. What is the length of cutting surface ?
2. How wide is the blade?
3. How much does the knife weight ?

I'm also planing to buy Fallkniven S1. Could someone tell me how they both compare:


Which one will cut better ? : Fallkniven is 5 mm thick with sabre grind, Dumpster Mutt is 6,3 mm thick but it has full flat grind ( after thinning and regrading edge to 20 degrees each side)

- Is easier to sharpen, without electric tools ?
- Will keep edge longer ?
- Has harder handle ?
- What the length of cutting surface and weight in Dumpster Mutt.



Thanks,

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