Bruce - GET REAL!!! Would you expect the SS4 to perform EXACTLY the same as the DogFather?!? They are both outstanding knives, but meant for different purposes. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> After SO MANY Dogs were howling for a Bussekin stainless, small knife, Dan provided for us - complete with mudder handles!! I'm sure that these blades will out-perform anything similar from other companies! We should appreciate his work!!!


Jim Crowell, who collaborated with Reggie Barker on the design of the
Crowell-Barker competition knife for Browning, stopped at the ScrapYard booth. He was talking with Dan about the knives and "grilling" him, and Jim just couldn't believe that knives of this quality were actually being made here in the U.S.! He was shocked when he asked Dan "who makes these knives for you?" and Dan replied "I do"!!! Keep in mind that the Browning knives are outsourced to China! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> I was happy and proud to tell him that Bussekin products have a tremendously loyal following who believe in their products, as do the Busse folks with their HONEST life-time warranty! Jim seemed amazed and impressed when he left the booth!! I just felt proud to be a Dog!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

That's right, fellow dogs! I broke the point on a Swamp Rat knife using an EDC slicer as a prybar. Dan is busy making sure his offerings are tough enough to wear the SY logo. Would other companies do this? We have been asking for mudder handles and stainless blades. Dan delivered. Yes, there are some foreign manufacturers that make some pretty tough stainless knives. If you break one abusing it, will they send you a new one like Swamp Rat and Scrap Yard do? Personally, I'm going to the store tomorrow for popcorn and beer.

I'm with you H/D!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Couple of things.

First, I have been called out of town and will not be able to get to the heavy beatings until later this week. . . I will update you as soon as I return.

Second, these are NOT Busse knives, they are Scrap Yard Knives. In no way does every individual knife offered from the three different "Busse Kin" lines reflect upon the other two. If so, then all knives will need to be made of INFI, in which case you can say goodbye to the Swamp and the Yard.

Third, let's try to stop all of the catty, grade school-like comments about these knives until these tests are finished. We will be destroying a number of blades to give you guys a really accurate performance envelope. We are dogs not pansies. . . let's act that way.

Fourth, I am very disappointed in a few people on this forum, there are only a few and they are certainly a very tiny minority. Armed with one man's unmeasured experience with a Swamp Rat blade, they have chosen to resort to ridiculous condemnations and accusations about the entire 154CM Scrap Yard line! Seriously? The malicious nature of these comments are unlike any I have read on these forums before and let it be known that they will no longer be tolerated. You must see the damage that you are doing not only to our reputation, but to your own as well. It is not the way of the Dog and it is done. Note how the man who actually broke the blade has been one of the most respectful on this issue.

There have been a number of Busse blades broken in the past 26 years. NEVER has a customer been left holding the bag, NEVER! Even if the knife was bought 20 years after its manufacture and purchased on the secondary market. EVERY customer with a problem has been satisfied. We carry on that great tradition at the Yard. We do it out of honor and respect for our customers and we do expect some level of respect in return.

I will be the first to condemn these blades if they do not perform to our standards. In all of the initial testing and destruction they proved themselves to be great performers. Period! We will photograph our destructive testing and leave it to you to decide if these fine blades will serve your needs or not.

We will be bending them in steel jaw vises, and literally pounding the sand out of them! Once we have finished going all Noss4 on them we will publish the data.

We do not make claims that we can not support.

Dan

I think a lot of people are over-reacting to the incident.I have constantly said that the 154cm blades will make great little edc's for using as they should be used. Yeah Vic broke one but by prying out a chunk of oak, a task I would not even try with my Bandicoot.
People are now talking about not even using them as if they are made of sugar glass !!! Let common sense prevail and use them as they should be used cutting and slicing etc. They should prove especially usefull for fishing tasks around a marine environment etc !!!!
Lets see some pics of them being used as they should be !!!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

Well, it's usually the people who don't actually use the knives that make such comments. This happens quite often with many knife companies. I'm sure you've seen many bashing of knife companies from people who don't actually even use their knives, let alone even own one from that company.

Those ignorant, let them be ignorant. Those that know that company and the capabilities of their knives, will still stay loyal.

Vics test didn't really show much besides that the tip was weak. Then again, knives weren't made to do such things. Knives were made to cut, cut, cut and still continue on cutting. I don't doubt that the edge retention on the 154cm knives will be fantastic. It won't be tough and malleable like SR-77, but that is the nature of 154cm. Where using two completely different steel for two completely different tasks. I'm sure we all know the original purpose of all those steels. HT might be one thing, but the composition is still a big factor. Both will excel in their own categories.

The nearest other blade dimension wise would probably be the Swamprat SwampWarden, I just wonder if anyone has subjected those to the task that Vic tried ? I know I wouldn't risk trying it with mine and yet I love that little knife and know it would not fail me while using it for it's intended purpose !!!

Can't wait to see this.

If I am stuck in the bush with my bushcraft kit which usually includes a DFLE and a small knife like the Muppy. I already have a knife designed for hard use and the smaller one I need to be able to hold an edge while I do things like whittle the
trigger sticks for traps and other fine detail work. For that edge retention is much more important than a lot of lateral strength. I am sure anything with the Scrapyard name will perform just as well as any other high end knife.

Frankly BLD I don't get your obsession with knives that can be used as prybars ,why not just buy a prybar? I want a knife that is better at being a knife than other competing knives.

I like the direction the Yard is taking with more practical usable knives.