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 Re: Working Hard And Beating On A Mud Puppy
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07/13/08 09:47 PM
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coyotebc
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Plenty of room in Saskatchewan Mate. If you can handle the -50 winters it is all good.
All the advantages of the UK without the crap.
Back to the Muppy ,the HC is a lot thinner so it is no wonder it had some tip issues. Thge HC is like a nice folder but without the folding.
My theory for how the Muppy is doing is it will take a huge amount of force before any deformation ,more even than S7 but when it does deform it is much more likely to be catastrophic.
One good test is to stick it in a vise and attach a torque wrench and see what it reads when it starts to bend. I am sure the Muppy can take a lot of force before it starts because it is harder and stronger than S7(stronger NOT tougher they are different). S7 is so great because it is tough meaning it can be bent without edge damage. The really impressive thing about the Yards heat treatment of S7 is they can get it hard enough to hold a good edge. S7 is known as a super tough steel but no one else has even tried to make a knife because no one could get it hard enough. Dan's heat treat is like viagra for S7.
I am curious as to how they are going to heat treat the 154. Are they going to max out the hardness and strength so it resists deformation or are they going to try to make it tougher so it can handle deformation better?
Jerry and Dan are amazing when it comes to the heat treating of steel.
CPM154 should behave completely different than S7. There is a reason no one lives in Sask <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Actually it is booming right now with energy prices the way they are. I was hoping to get to Regina and Saskatoon this year but it looks like it's off. I for one am a little interested in the testing Dan is doing, but considering the design of the knife and what it's intended purpose is, I was concerned about the tip breakage that HD had
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Re: Working Hard And Beating On A Mud Puppy
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07/13/08 10:54 PM
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eatingmuchface
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isn't the HC thinner than the MPLE's andyway? I'm more interested to see what kind of edge damage it will take, not lateral strength. as far as this steel is concerned. I can't wait to see the tests. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Working Hard And Beating On A Mud Puppy
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07/13/08 11:39 PM
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The HC is quite a bit thinner than the Muppy and the spear point is better designed to avoid tip damage. The HC will with the right edge work be a razor. The HC reminds me of some nice tactical folder blades. ![[Linked Image from img2.putfile.com]](http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/7/19203140739.jpg)
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Re: Working Hard And Beating On A Mud Puppy
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07/15/08 07:10 PM
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My perception is that the MP is just a bit more rugged than the HC. I actually prefer the HCs looks, but for a work knife (user), it's hard to beat the mudder handle. For obvious reasons, I do not intend to pry with either one. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> It will be interesting to see the results of Dan's tests.
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Re: Working Hard And Beating On A Mud Puppy
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07/15/08 07:35 PM
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Paul the Brit'
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Looking at pics I thought Dan's point was a lot stronger than the HC's.. My HC will never be a user but at least I own the 29th stainless Swamp Rat knife ever made! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Working Hard And Beating On A Mud Puppy
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07/16/08 07:52 PM
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Paul the Brit'
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I wonder if Dan, like Andy, has broken his hammer leading to this loooooooooooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnggggggggggggggggg delay in posting the pics? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Working Hard And Beating On A Mud Puppy
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07/16/08 10:54 PM
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Shaolin
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Re: Working Hard And Beating On A Mud Puppy
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07/16/08 11:42 PM
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Andy Wayne
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I wonder if Dan, like Andy, has broken his hammer leading to this loooooooooooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnggggggggggggggggg delay in posting the pics? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> If I had a hammer I'd hammer in the morning I'd hammer in the evening ... all over this land... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Working Hard And Beating On A Mud Puppy
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07/17/08 04:03 PM
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Paul the Brit'
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Get a Muppy, cheaper and they make more sense..
JYD #3 Poor, but still dreaming of a sage and black SOD CG...
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Re: Working Hard And Beating On A Mud Puppy
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07/17/08 04:05 PM
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Sharp
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Don't forget them Mudders. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Working Hard And Beating On A Mud Puppy
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07/17/08 04:14 PM
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Shaolin
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Get a Muppy, cheaper and they make more sense.. Already have one, lol
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Re: Working Hard And Beating On A Mud Puppy
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07/17/08 04:21 PM
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Sharp
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Then don't get an HC. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
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