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What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops using ? #231671 07/04/08 05:36 PM
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Just wondering how many Combat Troops are carrying Scrap Yard or Busse knives in the field (or desert) ? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops using ? [Re: JerseyBob] #231672 07/04/08 05:46 PM
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No idea, but also would like to know. I think Rat Cutlery sends some over as well a few other's I think I heard some where before.


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Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Shaolin] #231673 07/04/08 05:54 PM
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Can't speak for the US but most UK troops just have their SA80 bayonets and Leatherman or Gerber multitools. Big lock-knives are apparently popular too.

Dan did tan and sage S6's and Yard-hooks so they must have gone off to the sand pit for the US boys..


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Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Paul the Brit'] #231674 07/04/08 08:26 PM
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i figure for the most part its the same in the US as in the UK.

they either use what was issued or maybe spring for a ka-bar or something under a hundred bucks they sell locally or from brigade quartermaster.

my brother is in the navy.one guy he's in with was telling him he was a knife expert but had never seen or heard of scrapyard or ranger which i gave my brother one of each.i said if he hasnt heard of those two he isnt a knife expert.

most arent into knives honestly.


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Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: northern1] #231675 07/04/08 08:51 PM
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Now this has got me curious. A few companies are saying their sending knives over to our troops and/or law enforcement and that's why we (civilians) are not seeing them in the open market yet. So are they really sending them over or not? Just curious.


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Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Shaolin] #231676 07/04/08 09:36 PM
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I sent a few knives to Canadian soldiers and I have an SA 80 bayo that will be here next week so I will post a pic soon.


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Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: JerseyBob] #231677 07/05/08 02:03 AM
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From Bad MOJO:

Thanks Jerry for your donation to the Military & allowing us Busse fans the chance to participate in your generous donation program. TK did you a dis-service by not mentioning your generosity.

[Linked Image from homepage.mac.com]

USSOCOM... Priceless!

One of our contacts at USSOCOM has just sent these cool t-shirts for The Busse Combat Team. Here's the run down.

* Over 150 Busse Combat Blades to our Front line troops? - $43,433.00

*Shipping and Handling? - $128.52

*Overtime hours paid? - $3,920.00

*USSOCOM T-Shirts and a heartfelt Thank You from our troops overseas? - PRICELESS!

Note the lettering on the shirts is Black and Gold. . . very nuclear!

Jerry
1/27/02


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Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Andy Wayne] #231678 07/05/08 01:37 PM
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Thanks Andy.


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Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Shaolin] #231679 07/05/08 03:00 PM
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There have been so many different combat knives used, to collect them all would take a lifetime. The combat troops, especially Special Ops types, often carry non-issue knives and other weapons. Here are a few issue and non-issue combat knives from the recent past.
These Kutmasters were made on the same assembly line as the M-1 Garand bayonets. These are very rugged knives.
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Another popular combat knife was issued to the 82nd and 101st Airborne in WWII. It is the M3, bacically the m-1 Carbine bayonet without the ring and pommel attachment. This one was made by Camillus. The Viet Nam era bayonets for the M16A1 had an identical blade with fiberglass handles.
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Here is a current issue Ontario combat knife, patterned after the famous Marine Combat or Mk 2. These were also made by Ka-Bar, Camillus, and others.
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The Studies and Observatios Group, MACV, had some fighters made for them in Japan. SOG did recon along the Ho Chi Minh trail in Laos. It was a joint service covert operations group. Heavy Hook 3 operated from my base (56th Special Ops Wing, USAF). The Army ground guys from my base were all 5th Special Forces Group. The knife company, SOG, took its name from SOG-MACV. This is not an original. I carried a Camillus, but I wasn't a Green Beret, either!
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Here is a Camillus pilots survival knife, which was also popular with many recon units.
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This is the current issue Gerber LMF II.
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As you can see, none of these knives matches those from the Busse Knife Group that are being carried mostly by combat and special ops guys today.


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I haven't been to Iraq - but have been in the Active Army and the National Guard (Korea Active, Montana Guard). I have a ASH1 and BATAC for field use right now, as well as a Gerber 06 Auto (a lot of guys are getting those lately). A whole lot of Gerber LMF II's now (that knife sure is growing on me - I like it). I still see a lot of "Ka-Bar" style knives as well, and the Benchmade Stryker autos. Always a lot of multi tools - SOG, Gerber, Leatherman, etc. Spyderco folders are popular as well (and carried at the PX - Gerber, Spyderco, CRKT, Cold Steel, Smith and Wesson, etc - some real crap in the mix!)

In the event that my unit does deploy, I'm going to be getting in touch with Dumpster Dan regarding a special run! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />



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Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: diceman] #231681 07/05/08 05:53 PM
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Wow Vic I have been looking for a M3 to match my FS Dagger for a while now.



Wow Vic I have been looking for a M3 to match my FS Dagger for a while now.

Speaking of special runs of military issue Busse kin knives here is a great one and my most desired but sadly not available knife.

I used to have a great little article about this knife on my Putfile page written by the owner and Putfile removed and lost it. I hate them but moving 2000+ pics is a pain.

[Linked Image from img2.putfile.com]
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Anyway Swamprat made this limited run for a unit of CF(Canadian Forces)Combat Engineers and the sheath is custom.

Here is a photo of a WW2 US army ranger with a brit FS Dagger.
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Here is a classic US knife.
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German ,French/Nazi ,US ,allied daggers and the photo that made me want an M3 of my own.
[Linked Image from img2.putfile.com]

OSS assassin weapons instructor kit ,aka the holy grail of WW2 collectors.
[Linked Image from img2.putfile.com]

Luftwaffe gravity knife.
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When the British were not pussies.
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Canadian woman workers at the Longbranch armoury.
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[img]http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/6/16814185033.jpg[/img]
This one is my favourite
[img]http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/6/16814184980.jpg[/img]

I think this is a US WW1 or possibly a WW2 but still cool although the knuckle guard makes for a poor grip.
[img]http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/6/16600360259.jpg[/img]

This is my beloved second pattern FS dagger and the only knife in these photos I actually own.
[img]http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/6/16420034736.jpg[/img]

The Hitler Youth daggers had the scales replaced after the war and were used as Boy Scout knives. Even after they started producing their own Scout knives they kept the pattern.
[img]http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/5/12716550133.jpg[/img]

This excellent manual is available free for download (legally because it is a Marine manual)at Steves pages.
[img]http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/11/31020314535.jpg[/img]
WW2 issue Brit kukuri
[img]http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/9/25520302539.jpg[/img]

Bokers modern repro of a knife they made in both WW1 and WW2.
[img]http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/10/27318591140.jpg[/img]

This is a very interesting hollow handled Vietnam era knife called a Parson Hollow I think. Any info would be great?
[img]http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/5/12716533513.jpg[/img]
[img]http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/5/12716533554.jpg[/img]
[img]http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/3/6602284099.jpg[/img]

Can you believe I almost forgot to include a Randal<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif" alt="" />
[img]http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/2/3423280368.jpg[/img]
Now some modern military knife porn starting with the Chris Reeve ,Neil Roberts SEAL Knife. I like this much better than the GB.
[img]http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/6/16000432957.jpg[/img]

Strider did a lot for the tactical knife business.
[img]http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/11/31223001555.jpg[/img]

The CF issue knife is not the least bit tactical but it is practical.
[img]http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/11/32420484393.jpg[/img]

Here is a Spanish SF knife.
[img]http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/10/28719032560.jpg[/img]

Strider's third pattern? FS copy. With a 1350$ pricetag<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
[img]http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/8/22518283789.jpg[/img]
Very important knife for modern MBC by Covington.
[img]http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/6/17916021319.jpg[/img]

I will end on a strange but interesting knife. Someone missed the point of beating their swords into plowshares when they made a autoknife out of 100% recycled AK parts. I want one and not just because it manages to break about 15 Canadian laws by it's very existence.
[img]http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/3/6616472048.jpg[/img]


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Re: What Combat Knives are the US & UK troops usin [Re: Unsub] #231682 07/05/08 08:09 PM
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I wish I had kept all the cool WWII weapons I played with as a child growing up on Navy and Marine bases in the '50s. Nazi daggers, Filipino daggers, Ka-Bars, bayonets, machetes, Jap rifles. What a wonderful childhood!


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