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Double Cut vs. Satin
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Another "New Guy" question,
What is the difference between a double cut and a satin finish? I have a couple of satin blade Busses but no double cuts so I have no way of comparing.
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Re: Double Cut vs. Satin
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07/26/08 02:38 AM
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Dogbert in the simplest terms both of these finishes are smooth with the satin being the more shiny of the two. The double cut is very smooth with an almost grey color that is not reflective. Both very nice. Chickenplucker
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Re: Double Cut vs. Satin
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07/26/08 02:52 AM
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Thanks chickenplucke,
More questions for the group:
Is the double cut some sort of coating or just the result of less polishing? Is there any advantage/disadvantage in regards to corrosion resistance?
Sorry, I seem to be on a corrosion discovery odyssey this week.
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Re: Double Cut vs. Satin
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The double cut finish is executed by bead blasting the blade with ceramic/glass beads which essentially leaves very tiny pits on the blade surface. This gives a smooth, flat gray finish which is non-reflective, as chickenplucker said.
The satin finish is executed either by a high grit belt sander or scotchbrite pad abraded finish. The result is a smooth but more polished (and reflective) finish that is vertically oriented (on Busse family knives anyway) from top to bottom on the blade.
I agree with CP, both look very nice.
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Re: Double Cut vs. Satin
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Both double cut and satin are finishes, NOT a coating. Both leave the blade metal exposed and the knives should be dried and have some sort of anti-corrosive treatment (oil, wax, WD-40, Tuff cloth) before putting them away.
Several folks have reported that the double cut tends to rust more easily than satin due to the microscopic pits. With either satin or double-cut I would recommend keeping the blades clean, dry, and treated for storage.
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Re: Double Cut vs. Satin
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Thank you chickenplucker & Junk Yard Dog,
Double cut = Bead blasted, I do have bead-blasted blades so now I know.
That question took about 10 minutes to be answered by two knowledgeable members.
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Re: Double Cut vs. Satin
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07/26/08 03:08 AM
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also unless you have a double cut/bead blast equipment, satin finishes are easier for you to maintain, keep the original look. both are excellent finishes, and perdy too <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Double Cut vs. Satin
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Thanks WhichDawg,
Yup, smooth beats pitted every time for corrosion resistance.
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Re: Double Cut vs. Satin
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Unless well oiled, or waxed, in which corrosion resistance would typically favor the bead blasted product <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> . Satin finishes tend not to retain as much oil, or wax.
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Re: Double Cut vs. Satin
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I never thought of that Adam but I guess the blasted finish would hold more oil or wax. It does open the pores though. I am a big fan of the satin finishes. They are the only Busse finish you can maintain without any equipment ,they look terrific and are a bit less rustable. A really nice mirror polish like the one Rosarms does is a pretty decent rust prevention and the smoother the finish the better it will cut.
The ugliest finish of any knife company has to be the Strider tigerstripe camo. I have a WP with it and it is awful.
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Re: Double Cut vs. Satin
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Maybe so adamlau, as long as all of those little pits have wax or oil in them.
It would be interesting to see if anyone has tested the corrosion resistance of these two finishes with the same oil/wax preparation for both blade types.
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Re: Double Cut vs. Satin
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I used Renaissance Wax to rust-proof my blades. Ren-Wax on my DFLE works just fine. Ren-Wax on my DMDC left my fingerprints breed rust spots underneath the wax. I’d handled both blades the same way.
The rest was light, and it wasn’t that difficult to clean up. But it my experience the double cut is more rust prone.
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