Guys,
If you realy think Dan uses what Jerry throws out, your are drinking something more than cool aid.
Jerry has never used S7. Nor has Busse ever made a knife in SR101. In the words of one of Jerry's competitors "Jerry Busse" is a genius. All of their business actions are well thought out and planned. All of their actions are designed to wet the appetite.
As I said on another forum, after the Swamps last drought (between Sept 2005 (SAR) and the HRLM) the swamp came out with the HRLM, Mini Mojo, Mini Uncle Mojo, RMD, Chopweiler, Crash RAT, and HC. Those are some very nice knives. In 2006 when I first found the Swamp Forum, I remember a lot of threads similar to this one. "The Swamp is Dead". "Why wont they maintain the website". Etc. Etc. I do not know what the future will bring, but would not knives similar to the last batch be nice?
If SR101 is gone, do we remember that Jerry split a huge batch of 0170-6C with Mike Stewart when Camilus went under? 0170-6C is tougher and holds a edge almost as well as SR101. Now throw in Jerry's heat treatment and voila. Knife Nurvana?
Guys, RATS Survive!
Ron Athay

0170-6C would be a sweet deal for sure. Will just sit back and order whatever comes along. Good post <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />-Thanks

Just for your amusement Ron, do a quick search on the Busse (As in Jerry Busse) made Tali Wacker... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> SR-77 right there. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

I can't comment on the SR-101, however I don't think the swamp claims to use leftovers.

Chris,

The Tali-Wacker was the first "Busse" knife made with "SR-101" (*not SR-77). The Tali-Wacker and it's use of SR-101 may have instigated the creation of Swamp Rat knives.


Similarly, the Crash Axe was a "Swamp Rat" blade and the first to use SR-77 - prior to the existance of Scrap Yard and possibly instigating the start up of Scrap Yard.

Thanks for the correct KG. Got my wiring crossed for some reason on that one! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

Not meaning to call you out here RS, but "Long Time" is a relative statement. In my mind, you haven't been around all that long. You were not around prior to the existance of Scrap Yard. And since your were NOT around to witness when the Rat Chat WAS active, ....... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

...... Maybe you meant to say "Never" since you have been on both forums.... that would be accurate.

Rat Chat used to be every bit as busy as Scrap Yard a year or two prior to the creation of Scrap Yard.

Andy can confirm, but I remember before Andy even showed up.
Some of the older Rats well prior to myself would include 360joules, Trumby, Dunner, Rat Finkenstein, and many others who are still (somewhat) active over on Rat Chat that would vouch for how active Rat Chat was about 4-5 years ago.

A few years ago Rat Chat was a great forum. The decline in Swamp Rat production and creation of Scrap Yard would both likely be attributed to the cause of scattering the old Rats and diluting the Rat Chat forum.






Some people apparently do believe these stories.... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

Dan may or may not actually use "stockpiles" of steel Jerry has bought for whatever reason. But, I am quite confident Dan doesn't dig through dumpsters in spite of his marketing nickname.

Digs through a warehouse stockpile of stuff... more plausible. But, I am not even convinced of that. As Ron stated, I am quite confident Jerry never used SR-77 for any Busse knife. Swamp Rat used the first SR-77 for the Crash Rat just a few months prior to the creation of Scrap Yard.

"Seperate Companies".... Hmmmm ..... maybe in some ways, but definitely tied together in many ways including production facilities. I would say more tied together than not.

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No problem. I figured you knew what you were trying to say. I often catch myself typing either SR-77 or SR-101 and meaning the other.... I type the same for Scrap Yard and Swamp Rat and often have to correct my own typing because I meant the other.... heck I must be getting old because I actually do that on a LOT of things. I have to proof-read all the time.

you took the words out of my mouth,seriously.

you can tell a busse designed blade at first glance amd how would that be if one person didnt design them.whether SY,SR or BC all the blades are very similar from company to company.

again this is speculation but since we dont get many facts thats all we can do

i dont think that SR is done and quite honestly think its ridiculousness to say so.i dont know about production costs but we all know theirs no problem on the sales side when it comes to SR.

its a business owners dream.....if you make them they will come/sell....guaranteed,no ifs ands or buts,every single last one of them and like hot cakes.thses fricken busse boys cant loose.i tip my hat to them,more power to them and they must read these conspiracy theories and think we're either morons,wierdos or loosers,me included,probably first in line too.......

1.)
You took the very thought out of my beer soaked brain.

2.) My feelings were that when Jerry decided to drop the 'Basic' line Eric stepped in with the SRKW as sort of the 'B' grade Busse line. SY came in as the 'bargain basement' brand with yet another exceptional steel strengthened by Jerry's knowledge of heat treat magic. Getting rid of Swamp Rat doesn't make any sense to me because there are distinct markets for all three price levels of Busse products. It seemed to me that the Yard brought in a crowd that was just shy of nabbing a Swamp product and the Yard's price point put one within reach. All three brands are still upper end production knife products from my point of view and none would take the place of either of the remainder of the Busse family line. To me Busse was your Sunday-go-to-meeting knife, Swamp Rat your work knife and Scrap Yard came along to become your Knock-around knife for the rest of the time. I hope the Swamp comes back with some more SR-101 goodness but I sure don't understand there marketing tactics at this point. Ah. heck with it, Let's go chop the crap out of somethin'!!

Are we thinking that Jerry isn't fulfilling military orders? What do you think he is really doing? I don't profess to know but I haven't begun to doubt him.