Re: Here's The Next SYKCO Model. . . The "Scrap M
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01/24/09 04:23 AM
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Of course, there are bears, and then there are BEARS. Black bears are relatively small and not usually aggressive. Browns get much larger, and while opportunistic feeders, are also huge, capable predators. Special care should be taken to avoid bears in the late Fall or early Spring -- they're either trying to fatten up for the Winter or are just coming out of hibernation and very hungry. If you get between a sow grizzly and her young cubs, you're dead meat -- many mountain men perished as the result of that kind of encounter.
I've read that the best bear defense strategy is to be aware of signs that you're in bear territory and simply make noise so that you don't surprise one. As a general rule, bears would rather avoid people and will usually move along unless they feel threatened. Black bears would rather scavenge a carcass than try to take human-sized prey, but I wouldn't want to depend on that with big browns. If you do encounter a bear at close range, I've heard that the best thing to do is calmly back away -- don't run. I've also read that they'll scare if you yell and act aggressively, but in my (admittedly inexperienced) opinion, that doesn't leave you with a good fall back position if they decide to take you up on the challenge.
I spoke with one Korean-war era army vet who claimed to have checked out a BAR to go bear hunting -- I'd be confident even against even a charging griz with a full-auto .30-06, but that's about what I figure it would take. Anybody who has no choice but to go head-to-head with a bear using a knife will take damage and be lucky not to bleed out even if they "win". You are more confident then I would be! I read of a documented case of an Eskimo guide that came into his village and from down the street he saw a large brown bear attempting to enter his home (hut type dwelling). He was about a hundred yards away as he raised his 30.06 and emptyed 6 rounds into the heart and skull of the bear. The bear died on top of the dead guide! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" /> If you can't set one down with a good brain shot...I don't care how big your gun is, or how good you are.....they still have the determination, if they are inclined, to close the distance and kill you. AI
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Re: Here's The Next SYKCO Model. . . The "Scrap M
[Re: Agent Iron]
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01/24/09 12:39 PM
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Everything I have read would suggest that bear pepper-spray - "Counter Assault?"- is the best choice for defense against bears. It would be very difficult for all but the coolest-headed expert to hit a charging bear in a vital area, enough to stop it. A grown bear's brain is maybe the size of a grapefruit - how many folks could hit a target that small while it is charging you with a BAD attitude?!? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> A 12 gauge shotgun loaded with alternating slugs and buckshot would be the firearm of choice for such a close encounter. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />
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01/24/09 12:58 PM
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Re: Here's The Next SYKCO Model. . . The "Scrap M
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01/24/09 01:08 PM
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Okay, so I'm guessing that the new Scrap Muk is not for bear hunting?
Horned, dangerous, and off my medication.
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Re: Here's The Next SYKCO Model. . . The "Scrap M
[Re: Horn Dog]
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01/24/09 01:11 PM
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Has it been 10 days yet? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banghead.gif" alt="" />
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You cant make chicken salad out of chicken crap.
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Re: Here's The Next SYKCO Model. . . The "Scrap M
[Re: Private Klink]
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01/24/09 02:14 PM
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A 12 gauge shotgun loaded with alternating slugs and buckshot would be the firearm of choice for such a close encounter. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> I disagree. If you are within 12 gauge range with a grizzly bear, its all over at that point. Take your 870 and fire away at the grizzly Klink. You wont live to tell about it. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Here's The Next SYKCO Model. . . The "Scrap M
[Re: reconseed]
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01/24/09 02:36 PM
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It may be best to put the 870 in your mouth!
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Re: Here's The Next SYKCO Model. . . The "Scrap M
[Re: Agent Iron]
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01/24/09 02:46 PM
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Horsecrap.
Bears are made of meat, not titanium.
As with any other animal than humans, they don't have medical care available to them, so they avoid injury under all but the most extreme circumstances. In the wild they can die of starvation from simply not being able to run at full speed.
Knock a hole or two in even the most aggressive animal and the overwhelming majority of incidents will end with them running off to die hoping that somehow they will heal in time to not starve.
Dirty, wet, and unprotected. \m/
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Re: Here's The Next SYKCO Model. . . The "Scrap M
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01/24/09 03:33 PM
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I definitely want one of these!!! How does the ordering process work again? Do I pay when I order? Thanks. Haven't bought a SY in since the new way of doing things.
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Re: Here's The Next SYKCO Model. . . The "Scrap M
[Re: Horn Dog]
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01/24/09 05:13 PM
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Bors
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Okay, so I'm guessing that the new Scrap Muk is not for bear hunting? Sure it's good for hunting Bears. I'll bet it would work real nice for dressing him out after the BIG BOOM...LOL
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Do you need one, of course you do it's a knife and you like knives.....
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01/24/09 05:37 PM
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Re: Here's The Next SYKCO Model. . . The "Scrap M
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01/24/09 11:24 PM
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Dan...... Thank you for this offering!!! I cannot wait as I have been waiting for something like this!
My B-Day is in March, guess what I'm getting? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif" alt="" />
JYD #13!!! "Nobody knocks off an old man in my neighborhood and gets away with it." - The Burbs
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