I was just curious,How many people on here use their knives as prybars on a regular basis?It's nice to know a knife is capable of this function( as we all know Busse-kin knives are!) but it's not practical to argue about whether you can pry open a car door or ammo crate with the same knife that you may skin a deer with.I realize that the DMCG was designed to minimize the amount of different tools carried by a soldier who may pry with their knives frequently and are already loaded down with 50+ lbs. of gear.By looking at my CGDM I think it reflects this Idea,but my RMD or HR which are only 3/16" thick can pry very well in a pinch,and they will outcut the Mutt with their thinner stock.I use my knives alot more to cut things,chop,and sometimes maybe baton some kindling but rarely pry.Besides if you're talking about all of history I'm sure that a cave man would never even consider prying with his scalpel-sharp obsidian blade,which is made for cutting.

DMCG - Regularly
DFCG - Frequently. Not unusual for me to use it as a wedge or try and dig the tip in and pry.

To me though, that is within their design parameters. My Endura or sebbie NEVER get that treatment.

Give diamond blades some time perhaps they will amount to something but right now there still new and relatively untested hardly something worthy of the title of the toughest knife ever. They still have a long way to go including being Nossed. Busse's on the other hand are just the opposite tested tried and proven, and the I believe the toughest knives ever made.

The proof is in the pudding and right now Diamond Blades bowl is somewhat empty.

Very good point Bruce. I am a sucker for THICK blades <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />

Wow an 18" long 1/8" thick machete from DiamondBlades! Or I could just get a Tramontina and have it gold plated. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />

Yah - throw some micarta scales on that tram and I'll take one Vic !!Heck- I'll take a bunch right after you make them scary wicked sharp. Now-that is perfomance at a good price <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

Do we have any mechanical engineers on the forum? How about bean counters? If 1055, 1070, 1085, 1095 and 420HC get the job done on a machete costing $6.00 to $40.00, why make one in a super steel that will cost many times more and not really work any better in actual use. I think this new steel (friction forged D2) has some applications, possibly for industrial use, but even INFI is better than knife steel needs to be. For hard use life on the line combat survival, SR77 and INFI knives offer a margin of toughness that is worth the extra expense for some. But for such knives I would never want anything up in the 60s RC. A combat or survival knife needs to be field sharpenable because the edge is likely to be damaged doing things one might not normally do with a knife.

Actually I bet they would do just fine. And no blade thickness is not important if anything the thicker the blade is the more prone it will be to breaking. Don't forget the three properties, strength the ability to resist deflection, Hardness the ability to resist surface deformation/abrasion and toughness the ability to resist breaking.


I have seen some fairly large knives in some of there demo's and that's it. Given the extreme hardness they probably don't hold up. Remember S7 far far exceeds D2 in shock resistance and SR77 goes beyond that. Cost is really not a factor given what high end busse's (and others) go for and they don't have any problem selling. Given the amount of attention that edge retention gets on other forums you would think they would be mentioned more but their not. At the moment all I see is an expensive fair weather skinning knife. I can buy a Busse for the same price or less that's way more knife. I can drive stick shift and I can sharpen my knives so edge retention is not that important to me. What is important is overall performance and in that category Busse's are still the toughest knives made hands down.....


Time tells so we will have to wait and see until then I will invest in Busse's.

Back when I was still getting Blade, there was a big article on the friction forging. The "cutting edge" of metalurgy, no doubt. Should be great for the ultimate skinning knife.