i know some of you guys are quite knowledgeable when it comes to firearms.i know a bit but want your thoughts.

my old mans planning on getting some assault rifles while its still legal.he doesnt shoot or hunt.these are for a SHTF scenario.

what are the pro's and cons of the SKS vs.the AK.i know the history behind both and am pretty familiar with both along with the AK-74 but in a survival situation which do think would be better to have.and i know there may be guns that would be better than either but i still want to get to the bottom of this.

is the SKS more accurate and does it have a bit more velocity due to the longer barrel??

how reliable is the SKS compared to the famously reliable AK-47??

which is easier to clean in the field and which one needs it most??

if he goes with the AK it will most likely be a SAIGA.the fact that their black synthetic stocks without the pistol grip dont really resemble an AK is a big plus in our opinion regarding a SHTF or hurricane katrina like scenario.

They are both simple and reliable rifles. I prefer the detachable box magazine of the AK-47. The AK is a breeze to clean. As far as accuracy, I shoot better with the SKS off hand, but that is probably due to a longer sight radius than anything else. I see a lot of folks arming themselves lately. Something is in the air.

you can say that again.like that friggen song by phil collins...{good song}...

get'em while the gettin' is legal boys,assault rifles that is.the back of the newspaper and swap sheet is a good place too.

maybe i've been reading to much of the turners diaries.

but i've been feeling the same way HD.something is in the air.it feels like a whole lot is going to change in the next few years.hey look,there's that word "change" again.

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What will you do when they come to take your guns? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Haven't read that book in years.

yeah,timothy mcveigh and the racist stuff make the book controversial but i find some of the thoughts in the book interesting.

this is my second time reading it.its really a well put together piece of fiction,or is it fiction...lol.

Try Unintended Consequences by John Ross.

I have not read either book but have heard about both of them. This thread is interesting, considering what is happening in this country as well as globally. We caught Glenn Beck the other day when he had as guests a former CIA operative and a former Department of Homeland Security man. They were discussing current problems as well as likely scenarios in the next couple of years. It is sad and disturbing what is happening here and abroad; the near future may make the 30's Depression look like a relative cakewalk. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

I DEFINITELY believe in hoping for the BEST, but PREPARING for the worst! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

been shooting both for years. i have 1 russian sks and 2 aks.

both are the 2 most reliable rifles ever built, arguably. well, no its really not arguable. anyone that knows anything about semi automatic blowback, gas operated firing systems will attest to this. the SKS will be slightly more accurate due to its longer barrel. the operating system of the 2 firearms is precisely the same. therefore, functionality will be pristine with both rifles. the ak, as HD said, is nicer in terms of having detachable mags by design. this means that while the sks can be converted to take detachable mags, it will cost you in the reliability dept. (the inclusion of detachable mags on the sks has shown and proven to deter the fierarms feed-ability in some cases). i have a romanian wasr-10. (1 of the cheapest made aks on the market, mind you) people who shoot egyptian maadis ( i have one maadi as well) and russians and chinese mak90's will often [censored] the wasr10's, primarily due to their sloppy fit and finish and stamped receivers. (this can inhibit you when firing rapidly as the stamped receiver heats up F A S T!!!!!!) and can consequently bend under extreme heat. the milled receiver on the russians, some of the chinese, and some of the maadis (mine has a milled receiver) will allow for rapid fire and you dont have to worry about the receiver becoming deformed.

in the end, either rifle is one of the best rifles in the world in terms of reliability. my wasr10 has been every bit as reliable as my Egyptian Maadi and i paid almost 3 times LESS THAN the maadi for it. get either. the ak47 will obviously be worth more, should you ever decide to sell it. but the sks is, IMO, just a fine fine fine rifle. original with a 10 round mag... the thing will virtually never jam. there is a hella nice one down the road. a russian SKS that i am thinking about picking up for $400. you cant beat either one. i have been a staunch shooter of these 2 firearms for years and owned them for an ample amount of time. i hope this post has helped you. i dont know as much about SY knives as HD or some others but i do know Aks and sks's.

I have a Norinco SKS that I bought new years ago for $75.00. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> It shoots quite well and is extremely reliable. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Go to Google and type in REX 84. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> Not a pleasant thought! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/paperbag.gif" alt="" />

Recon Seed, do you have any thoughts on the modern Saiga 7.62x39 rifles?

I agree with Recon seed. I have had both and many variations of each. If were to pick one it would be the SKS because they seem to be more accurate.