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Re: I think I killed my SOD [Re: pitman] #287067 05/04/09 08:40 PM
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Oh man I blame Vic for making it look easy enough for anyone to do !!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif" alt="" />

Vic uses the right tool for the job - which is most certainly NOT a bench grinder!

Re: I think I killed my SOD [Re: MustardMan] #287068 05/04/09 08:48 PM
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Hope Dan doesn't mind me using pics of a none Scrapyard knife but here is one of my customs that I converted to convex by hand last week using wet and dry.....

[Linked Image from i129.photobucket.com]

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[Linked Image from i129.photobucket.com]

It still needs a little work and will never be as good as what Vic does but it proves that it can be done by hand.

Re: I think I killed my SOD [Re: ghost57] #287069 05/04/09 08:51 PM
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after some smoothing out and polishing it should be just fine!
(though there def. is the possibility of HT damage)

I personally don't like my SY's to have thin of an edge (especially ones that big) because they see some abuse and are more prone to edge deformation than some other steels.

And I WOULD NOT worry about the warranty if i was you, that's for sure.
I would think (and hope) Dan would take care of you if anything were to happen.

other than that, I say use some hand methods and work on it some more.


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Re: I think I killed my SOD [Re: eatingmuchface] #287070 05/04/09 10:19 PM
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OMG Man! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" /> It looks pretty hideous, but if you're happy with it, that's what counts.

A small suggestion for the future; hit up Youtube, and do a search for videos on knife sharpening. You'll get some good ideas on how to make a sharp AND beautiful edge, kewl?

I'm on the night shift at my regiment right now, so I don't have access to my pics. I'll post some pics of the Busse knives I've just finished sharpening this past weekend, if you want to see them.

Remember, I've only been belt sanding my blades for under a week, but I had the previous experience of how to properly hand sharpen them on stone and strops. My advice is that you start with the hand method, then graduate to the power method. But, as with any advice, it's yours to take or ignore. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


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Re: I think I killed my SOD [Re: eatingmuchface] #287071 05/04/09 10:36 PM
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Hey, if if works for you, I'm all for it. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

I don't see any discoloration and the coating doesn't look affected, so the HT may still be good. S7 is a cold and warm work steel. S7's hardness doesn't drop off significantly until you get past about 600 degF (a blue-purple color). I don't even see a straw-blue color on it, unless it was ground away after it discolored. I haven't tested it, but I'd assume that the coating would start to brown or melt at that temperature.

The safest way to smooth out the profile is to use a mousepad and sandpaper. I'd probably start with 100 grit and work my way up (100, 150, 220, 320, to about 400).
There are a bunch of guys who can probably describe this process much better than I, but here goes:
Just lay the sandpaper on the mousepad, lay the knife at the same angle as the grind you made and draw the knife back toward the spine of the knife. Try to keep the edge in contact with the sandpaper and try to keep the edge perpendicular to the backward motion of the knife especially when you round the belly of the blade lose to the tip.


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Re: I think I killed my SOD [Re: tyger75] #287072 05/04/09 10:38 PM
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It looks pretty bad but I'd say it can be easily fixed provided you didn't over-heat it. Good luck! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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Re: I think I killed my SOD [Re: tyger75] #287073 05/04/09 10:58 PM
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Well thanks for the advice, its not actually as bad as it looks just my camera is really bad >.< on the side of Good news a very generous dog offered to fix it so its going to be sent to him. We learn through our mistakes and I have learned something very important from this Mr. SOD does not like MS. Bench grinder. I also learned even though it takes a lot longer to do it by hand its worth it.


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Re: I think I killed my SOD [Re: Boots] #287074 05/05/09 12:38 AM
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I learned last year to never grind when (1) in a hurry, (2) tired, (3) hungry, or (4) agitated? Ask me how I know? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

You can do a lot of damage with a belt sander, even more with a bench grinder. The other thing about bench grinders is that they cause more injuries than pretty much anything else. They can grab your knife and flip it right up on you if you are not careful.

I bet you could make your SoD look fantastic with a belt sander, just go slow and steady. I don't use a water bucket, I just feel the blade after each pass and never let it get past warm.

Good luck and I'm proud of you for having the guts to mod your SoD.

Re: I think I killed my SOD [Re: VoxHog] #287075 05/05/09 12:39 AM
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Thx VoxHog much appreciated.


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Re: I think I killed my SOD [Re: VoxHog] #287076 05/05/09 12:40 AM
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I would strip it & try to recover it but go sloooooooooooooooow <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> good luck buddy.


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Re: I think I killed my SOD [Re: David Brown] #287077 05/05/09 01:09 AM
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That made me whince... ah... man...

At least you had the OO to try it... I know I wouldn't even contemplate it!

Re: I think I killed my SOD [Re: Boots] #287078 05/05/09 01:12 AM
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Well thanks for the advice, its not actually as bad as it looks just my camera is really bad >.< on the side of Good news a very generous dog offered to fix it so its going to be sent to him. We learn through our mistakes and I have learned something very important from this Mr. SOD does not like MS. Bench grinder. I also learned even though it takes a lot longer to do it by hand its worth it.


For what its worth when I was a kid, 10 to be exact, I thought it would be cool to sharpen a hunting knife on a bench grinder. I still have the marks of the knife getting away from me and the stone taking the skin off of two knuckles, the blade went down between the shield and the stone...now that was a lot of sparks. I remember it like a fourth of July celebration. By the time I got the grinder unplugged my blade had marks all over it like a city street map of downtown Chicago and on the top edge was this long groove the size of lake Michigan...yep good memories. There is never a dumb question and your new found friends in the Yard are always available for feedback.

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