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Tree sap and patinas? #287638 05/05/09 06:30 PM
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Hey all. Can tree sap almost instantly tarnish a blade? I stuck my M9 into a tree a good inch or so (happened to hit right between two pieces of bark). When I pulled it out it had this purplish black tree blood on it. When I rinsed the blade a couple of minutes later it had turned a permanent black in a few spots. Weird. Anyone know anything about this? I don't care that the tip is discolored (it's only gonna get worse from here) but I was just kind of curious.

Re: Tree sap and patinas? [Re: gottahaveit27] #287639 05/05/09 06:33 PM
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Oak will do it. Some other trees, too. Try using a pencil eraser and rub it in the same direction as the grind lines. Be careful, it's sharp!


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Re: Tree sap and patinas? [Re: Horn Dog] #287640 05/05/09 06:34 PM
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Sounds like something I would do.....Good luck getting it off.


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Re: Tree sap and patinas? [Re: Boots] #287641 05/05/09 06:39 PM
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someone over on BF mentioned using a Mr Clean pad to clean their blades so this past weekend I had a sap issue with my SAR LE, the pad took it right off without scuffing the blade. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Tree sap and patinas? [Re: silverbullets] #287642 05/05/09 07:15 PM
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Thanks for the suggestions guys. It's strange though, because it's not that there is any sap left on the blade and it was not sticky at all. I guess there is some component in the sap that causes an almost immediate chemical reaction? If one were wanting to get an almost immediate patina on a blade, this seems like it may be a good way to go about it (presuming you would be able to coat the enire blade). Does anybody else know what I'm talking about, or why this happens? It was an oak tree by the way.

Re: Tree sap and patinas? [Re: gottahaveit27] #287643 05/05/09 08:15 PM
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Oak will turn a blade purple almost instantly. It must have some tannins or acid in the sap. You should see all the funky colors my machete blades get by the end of the Summer.


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Re: Tree sap and patinas? [Re: Horn Dog] #287644 05/05/09 09:59 PM
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Oh, thanks horn dog. I've never had that happen before. It would be interesting to see what kid of effects you could get with an entire blade coated with sap.

Re: Tree sap and patinas? [Re: gottahaveit27] #287645 05/05/09 11:04 PM
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Interesting... as a kid green english walnuts would stain my hands when I would break them apart... not that I'm edward scissor hands, but I wonder if it's a similar chemical that tarnishes the blade?

Re: Tree sap and patinas? [Re: gRat] #287646 05/06/09 07:31 AM
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Coffee , teas , nuts , and blood can cause discoloration....you can also BLUE a carbon blade. A friend uses acid to etch damascus like patterns on stainless and carbon blades.


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Re: Tree sap and patinas? [Re: archangel] #287647 05/06/09 07:36 AM
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i heard from VANCE you can use tobasco! i think he did it on some moras


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Re: Tree sap and patinas? [Re: mcjhrobinson] #287648 05/06/09 10:24 AM
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speaking of patinas, hey mcjhrobinson i dug that picture when you were in Zion Natl park. How did you like southern utah? I grew up in St. George Utah a little SW of Zion and we have a cabin on @ 700+ acres on the top of kanara mt. which looks down through Kolob fingers which is NW Zion park. I dare say it doesnt compete with the lush vegetation of Hawaii, (lived in my tent on N Shore Oahu for a summer) it is still majestic.

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ghost i loved it! i even bought a shirt that says "UTAH ROCKS" and his little pics of all the 5 parks. i know where st george is we drove through it and had some food there.

hawaii and south utah are both VERY beautiful in their own way.

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