Ideal weight for a Large Knife?
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I am presently "mulling over" just how heavy a knife ought to be on a large knife if you are going to carry it for a good distance? The distinction being say...something you would put in your truck or just take out the house when needed...whereby the weight issue aside from being able to use the knife well...was'nt quite as much of a concern.
In fairness the first thing with a "large" knife of any weight is that the "size" aspect often means it gets in the way....and if you would be putting it in a rucksack for easy of carry...allow for this in your thoughts and let's hear them...
On the "weight v whacking" scale...for me I still feel quite comfortable with a NMFBM if it is going to ride mainly in a rucksack or on the side of one. So 30 oz's seems "do-able" like that. On a belt without suspenders it is too heavy...with suspenders or an over the shoulder "other rig" it is again "do-able". But if it were a "belt only" option...I am thinking about 16oz to 20 oz.
Has anyone any thoughts on this or experience? Let's also talk about the weight of the knife when using it as well...because that is just as valid a consideration. When does a knife become "too heavy" for you?
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Re: Ideal weight for a Large Knife?
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06/04/09 05:46 AM
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Hmm..I always felt the FBM CG (27.4 oz.) was to heavy for belt carry, which is why I really want a FSH CG (19 oz.), same handle and still great at chopping.
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Re: Ideal weight for a Large Knife?
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06/04/09 08:57 AM
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I bet Jeff could rig some type of weight distributing sheath that spans more of the belt allowing a larger, weightier knife to be carried than you would normally imagine. So maybe sheath design should enter the equasion?
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Re: Ideal weight for a Large Knife?
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06/04/09 09:12 AM
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Only 2 days back I walked with my newest survival knife for about 7 miles through some steep country I hunt in. The knife(BNSS) weighs 22.4 ounces/627grams, about the same as the SOD I think. With a Spec Ops style sheath(lower hanging sheath) it wasn't a problem. A pleasure really!
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338, it just rolls off the tongue.
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Re: Ideal weight for a Large Knife?
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06/04/09 12:25 PM
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Always carry me knives in the belt, never fellt it to be to heavy. Hiking 50miles with a HI Tarwar in the belt Here with the NMFBM ![[Linked Image from i283.photobucket.com]](http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk301/simonby/DSC00271.jpg)
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Re: Ideal weight for a Large Knife?
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06/04/09 12:37 PM
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You have hit upon a pet peeve of mine. Somehow, knife buyers have been led to believe that thicker and heavier is better. Speaking of knives that are large enough to use for chopping and such, I have quite a few that are just too heavy for anything but chopping. They are slow and cumbersome for clearing or slashing brush. They are awkward for any task but chopping. Having used so many of the big bush knives, I have come to the conclusion that for me, 22 oz is the upper limit of any knife I will carry. I prefer one around 17 oz. The FBM, FFBM, KZ, and several of the large HI khukris are just too heavy to be practical. The extra weight not only makes these knives a bit heavy for carry, it limits their practical uses. Give me a good camp machete or lighter long knife, and I can get some real use out of it. The biggest heaviest choppers have limited utility. Here are some large knives that actually work:
DFLE, Ont Survival Bowie, Western Bowie, Marbles Trailmaker, CS bowie machete, M9LE, Condor Inca knife, Condor combat machete, NMSFNO, Camp Tramp, Ratweiler, Chopweiler, CS Trailmaster, CS Gurkha Kukri, Ranger RD9&RD7, Becker Bk-9, BRKT Hudson Bay, BRKT golok, Sarsquatch, SODLE, and most machetes.
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Re: Ideal weight for a Large Knife?
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06/04/09 12:42 PM
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Lot of good ones there Vic. I like the DFLE-Ratweiler and the RD 7 <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />. Thanks
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Re: Ideal weight for a Large Knife?
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06/04/09 12:43 PM
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I agree wholeheartedly about the "thicker is not always better" statement - my CS LTC kukri is downright anorexic by Busse standards, and that thing not only chops like a champion, but it rides well on the belt, and is a great brush-slasher and slicer as well.
Thick knives have their place, but when they get so heavy that you'll never have them with you, they kind of lose their purpose.
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Re: Ideal weight for a Large Knife?
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06/04/09 12:51 PM
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I agree wholeheartedly about the "thicker is not always better" statement - my CS LTC kukri is downright anorexic by Busse standards, and that thing not only chops like a champion, but it rides well on the belt, and is a great brush-slasher and slicer as well.
Thick knives have their place, but when they get so heavy that you'll never have them with you, they kind of lose their purpose. CS used to make one called the MTC or Mini Terrain Chopper. It has a 10" blade of 1095 at 1/8" thick. One of my all-time favorite swamp knives. It weighs less than a pound and chops quite well. I'd like to see the long NMFBM in thinner stock. The big thick choppers are fine for use at the chopping block or to keep in the truck, but for carry, they are too heavy for the limited utility they offer.
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Re: Ideal weight for a Large Knife?
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06/04/09 01:40 PM
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You have hit upon a pet peave of mine. Somehow, knife buyers have been led to believe that thicker and heavier is better. Speaking of knives that are large enough to use for chopping and such, I have quite a few that are just too heavy for anything but chopping. They are slow and cumbersome for clearing or slashing brush. They are awkward for any task but chopping. Having used so many of the big bush knives, I have come to the conclusion that for me, 22 oz is the upper limit of any knife I will carry. I prefer one around 17 oz. The FBM, FFBM, KZ, and several of the large HI khukris are just too heavy to be practical. The extra weight not only makes these knives a bit heavy for carry, it limits their practical uses. Give me a good camp machete or lighter long knife, and I can get some real use out of it. The biggest heaviest choppers have limited utility. Here are some large knives that actually work:
DFLE, Ont Survival Bowie, Western Bowie, Marbles Trailmaker, CS bowie machete, M9LE, Condor Inca knife, Condor combat machete, NMSFNO, Camp Tramp, Ratweiler, Chopweiler, CS Trailmaster, CS Gurkha Kukri, Ranger RD9&RD7, Becker Bk-9, BRKT Hudson Bay, BRKT golok, Sarsquatch, SODLE, and most machetes. Yep 17oz - 22oz with blades in the 7-10" range are about right. Any heavier and you might as well pack a light axe, any lighter and you might wish you had packed an axe. Dealers choice for carry in a pack vertical belt or Saxon carry all work just depends on your set up.
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Re: Ideal weight for a Large Knife?
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06/04/09 04:54 PM
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i dunno how you carry belt knives but i dont own big heavy duty belts or heavy duty pants with big belt loops. my biggest knife is a CGFBM with leather pants its quite heavy. ive found that wearing a dedicated knife belt works for me, like a heavy duty canvas belt. you can wear it higher on the hips which helps distribute the weight, and you can take it off without having to undo youre belt.
id say my cgfbm is as heavy as id go for weight for a knife.
so really its not all that heavy...if i had to pack it id just pack it with the other heavy items in my pack.
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Re: Ideal weight for a Large Knife?
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I usually don't carry blades longer than 4-6" on a long hike. I carry a pistol most of the time on hikes. Having a pistol, spare magazines, light and a really heavy knife is just a bit too much on the old bat belt, escpecially if I carry a 1911. When I do take a larger knife, I put it in my pack.
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