I hear you, but I see the other side too. He is stuck looking at secondary prices right now, which definitely eliminates any sort of affordability.

bingo!!!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

true! BUT!!!! the person in question CAN scrimp and save and pull a few extra weekend jobs to get said high quality SY knife!

thanks guys youve all been REALLY helpful

This is really out of bounds. Feel free to research this yourself using google, youtube video, and the manufacturer sites.

This is one thread that I beg the forum moderators to please remove. The initial post deserves every ounce of ridicule that anyone wants to throw at it, in my opinion.

I agree w the other dogs, kiba. You should just save up and hold out for an SY blade.

I gotta say, I'm feeling a bit ashamed of you Dogs right about now. Of all the ways to reply, many have chosen cold remarks. I too was new once and remember what it is like to be lost in a sea of knife questions. Yes, being patient and getting a scrapper is probably THE best option but it's not the only option. I remember lurking, going to BF, going to knifetests, buying the SOG seal pup, being a little less enthusiastic about it than I hoped, and finally returning to the Yard. If there is a way to help someone avoid that detour then I will do my best to steer them down that path. There were countless days spent researching the hell out of knives until I got to that conclusion and it would have been nice if I could have gotten there quicker. In the end the Dogs here helped me reach that understanding and I was able to form some strong bonds with them in the process.

Maybe I have a little more patience than others, maybe I'm a little more tolerant but when I see a sincere thread and one not meant for trolling or some other stupid deviation then I feel the desire to help. As I once wanted to be helped.

Please take no offense as I mean none, just thought higher of the Yard than that.

I agree with Art - What happened to helping fellow knife lovers out- you can assist the guy or point him in the right direction as I and a couple others did without bashing him for his question. Everyone doesn't come here knowing the rules - we must inform them as we were informed but can't we do it in a civil way? I truly felt bad for the guy...If I were treated this way when I asked my first few questions I may not still be here today. Actually, yeah I would cause I don't let that stuff bother me - but I'm with Art on this - He could and should of been treated nicer. Everyone took offense that some one dared ask about other brand knives...I can show you post after post after post of Dawgs talking about and showing pics of 'their' other knives and also show you comments where someone said they were passing on Busse or a particular knife because of cost. I don't see the difference here.

Okay, now off my soap box. Thanks for getting me riled up Art <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> In case you can't tell, I've had a bad day. As with Art - don't take offense here either...just realize I am trying to make a point and that I've had a bad day. And after all of the comradery that I have seen and experienced here, I was a little surprised to see some of these responses...I doubt this is how Dan would like us to treat new folks with questions. Thanks. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Not offended at all, gents, and I didn't mean my tone to be nasty at all - obviously it's difficult to perceive the intention of these things in real life when you're reading words on a screen.

I'm all for talking about knives from any manufacturer - heck, in my recent chopoff, two of the best performers were non-scrapyard knives, and I was all too happy to point that out.



But posting a thread to specifically ask "hey, tell me any knives OTHER THAN SCRAP YARD that are good" just seems to be pushing it IMHO. I read the RAT Cutlery board on Bladeforums, and I participate there once in a while, but I don't go on there talking about Busse or Scrap Yard knives all the time - I certainly wouldn't go there and say "hey guys, I don't really want a RAT Cutlery blade, so who wants to tell me what else to buy?"

There's a time and place to ask those kinds of questions, and IMHO it's a "general knife discussions" board on a place like knifeforums or bladeforums, not a manufacturer-specific board, whose upkeep, maintenance, and hosting fees are paid for by that manufacturer.

And it's also a completely different story when an established member says something like "I have a couple scrap yards already, and want to compare their performance against other knives, so who else out there has a good value?"

I hear ya MM. I think, without knowing his intent, that some should have given him the benefit of the doubt.

He doesn't say "hey, tell me any knives OTHER THAN SCRAP YARD that are good".
He said that he wants a scrapyard-like knife but can't afford a SY so can we advise him on another brand.

Read my response - not rude, yet not offering any other brand on this forum. Had he asked the same question on Busse forum no one would of thought twice because they would have pointed him here or to the swamp (He doesn't know that SY's are the cheapest of the Busse-kin knives). How would he know these rules or that asking that question is forbidden here? Anyway, I hear ya.

Totally see that MM.

It's been so long since I looked at this place as a manufacturer-specific forum, though. It feels more like home. Sure, all we talk about are scrappers most of the time but I don't mind the occasional stranger popping in with some "crazy" question. I recognized in Kiba what I went through and all the frustration that comes with it. So he made a boo-boo. No biggie. Hopefully he gets a scrapper, I love them so much I hope everyone get's a chance to enjoy them. They may not appreciate them like I do but at least they'll have something reliable, tough, and made in the good ol' US of A.

Now, everyone, go buy a scrapper! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

They're that good!!!!