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Re: New rifle [Re: REM762] #296621 06/11/09 12:32 AM
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Nice looking gun! Congrats! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />


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Re: New rifle [Re: KnotSlip] #296622 06/11/09 12:47 AM
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Bowl me over! Magnificent rifle!
I have a question. Traditional AK's are not known for their accuracy after, let's say, 100 yards or so. How does this bad boy compare?


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Re: New rifle [Re: Art] #296623 06/11/09 01:53 AM
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Very fun, congrats on your new rifle.


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Re: New rifle [Re: imaginefj] #296624 06/11/09 10:10 AM
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Is that a Chinese or Russian rifle? Very nice, I always love Ak's and I had 10 at one time. Sold all of them but 4 of them, 2 Chinese pre-bans (ak56s and Polytech Legend) 1 Bulgarian SLR-95 and 1 Hungarian (SA-2000). I had the chance to shoot some sweet ak's while in Iraq. I have some pics I will post in another thread, but there where 2 sweet Bulgarian milled underfolder ak's that I shot at a range and they were sweet!!!


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Re: New rifle [Re: banana-clip] #296625 06/11/09 01:20 PM
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Russian designed. IIRC, these rifles were built on Polish and Bulgarian part kits. The RPD will be more accurate than an AK because of the longer brl, a more rigid receiver (no flex like a stamped one), and the gas system (no piston connected to the bolt carrier).


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Re: New rifle [Re: sumoj275] #296626 06/11/09 09:23 PM
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Ah, yes. That was it, the gas system. Thanks Sumo.
Banana Clip, I've been looking at getting an AK and I know there is a difference in stamped vs milled but how big of a difference is it really?
Having had so many AK's I figured you could tell me first hand! Thanks <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />


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Re: New rifle [Re: Art] #296627 06/12/09 12:05 AM
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Bowl me over! Magnificent rifle!
I have a question. Traditional AK's are not known for their accuracy after, let's say, 100 yards or so. How does this bad boy compare?

Yeah standard AK's (and my FAL's for that matter) shoot anywhere from 2-4 MOA. The kit this rifle was made from had a very nice barrel. It did not look like it had been shot much. I will be able to take it out and shoot it the weekend after next since work is killing me right now. I will need to sight it in so I will post on what kind of groups it shoots. I am kind of spoiled in the accuracy area since I usually shoot AR's and my Remy bolt gun is a 1MOA rifle. This one is more for fun.


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Re: New rifle [Re: banana-clip] #296628 06/12/09 12:16 AM
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Is that a Chinese or Russian rifle? Very nice, I always love Ak's and I had 10 at one time. Sold all of them but 4 of them, 2 Chinese pre-bans (ak56s and Polytech Legend) 1 Bulgarian SLR-95 and 1 Hungarian (SA-2000). I had the chance to shoot some sweet ak's while in Iraq. I have some pics I will post in another thread, but there where 2 sweet Bulgarian milled underfolder ak's that I shot at a range and they were sweet!!!

This one is from a Russian kit. It was my dad who got me in to AK's. First it was AR's, then FAL's, then AK's. Mainly because my dad assembling a couple FAL's from kits and then we got setup for AK's. This RPD was a bit over our heads due to the conversion from open bolt to closed bolt so we farmed this one out.

One of my favorite AK's is the AMD65. It's compact and makes a nice Jeep gun for trips out in the desert. Here is a pic of the AMD when it was new.

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Re: New rifle [Re: Art] #296629 06/12/09 12:19 AM
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Ah, yes. That was it, the gas system. Thanks Sumo.
Banana Clip, I've been looking at getting an AK and I know there is a difference in stamped vs milled but how big of a difference is it really?
Having had so many AK's I figured you could tell me first hand! Thanks <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

I don't have much experience with milled receiver AK's, but the folks I know who have them tell me they tend to be more accurate. The one gunsmith I know who has built many AK's told me that they the milled receivers are harder to work with than the stamped receivers. But if you are not building one, that's not a problem. The milled guys are also heavier.


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Re: New rifle [Re: J33psr0ck] #296630 06/13/09 11:49 AM
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Those are some great pics. It brings back a lot of memories. The milled guns are a little heavier and are harder to build but usually more accurate. I had one of the Bulgarian milled guns and it was quite accurate. I've owned two of the Russian Veprs, and they were built off of the RPK light machinegun receiver. It had a much thicker receiver and barrel than a regular AK. This meant that the accuracy was great for an AK. It usually grouped lest than 2" at a 100 yards but with 154 Grain soft points, I could usually keep it around 1" at a hundred. That was outstanding for an AK variant. The Romanian guns I had usually grouped in the 4-6" range, and my Chinese NMH91s and MAK90 grouped about 3-4", just for a comparison. Unfortunately, I no longer own any of them, but I sold the Bulgarian AK to one friend and the Russian VEPR to another. So, I still get to see and shoot them every now and again. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

Re: New rifle [Re: MAJORSDAD] #296631 06/13/09 02:44 PM
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Thanks for the responses guys, I didn't know you could get groups that tight. Even 4"-6" would be good enough for me. The shop I go to has the stamped receivers at half the price of the milled ones so I may just go that route, thanks again!


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Re: New rifle [Re: J33psr0ck] #296632 06/13/09 04:30 PM
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I find the AK family alot like the the Scrapyard family...THE Toughest tools on the market.....My ARSENAL AK , my Glock and my Scrapyards are my WORK tools when I deploy for PSD/Force Protection missions. RPD , Baaadddd to the Bone.


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