That's the point - it IS included in the definition. So if you've got a pound of feathers and a pound of rocks, you've already included the buoyancy of the feathers in that pound, and so they weigh the same.

S5 has arrived.

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Congrats!

Tyvm.

To put this another way (no pun intended)...

Weight only has meaning in the conditions under which you measure it.

If you take a pound of feathers and a pound of bricks as measured in a vacuum, then that weight only has meaning in vacuum. If you suddenly remove the vacuum and expose them to the atmosphere, they might suddenly have different weights, but you will no longer be comparing a pound of bricks and a pound of feathers, because those measurements you took in that other environment mean absolutely diddly in this new environment.



Your confusion isn't surprising - there are two problems at work, one being that weight is a very tenuous concept that is used poorly in popular usage, and two being that, in their zeal to point out that weight isn't the same as mass, typical science teachers completely muck everything up and make it even more confusing than it already is.

I carry a Browning HiPower. Accept no substitute. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> [/quote]

I've owned a couple Hi-Powers over the years and it's a great gun, but it's no Glock.

I carry a Browning HiPower. Accept no substitute. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> [/quote]

I've owned a couple Hi-Powers over the years and it's a great gun, but it's no Glock. [/quote]








Allow me to interject...




Can't go wrong with the 1911 series...
or the Sigs...

I carry a Browning HiPower. Accept no substitute. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> [/quote]

I've owned a couple Hi-Powers over the years and it's a great gun, but it's no Glock. [/quote]








Allow me to interject...




Can't go wrong with the 1911 series...
or the Sigs...

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I've owned, shot, sold and worked on them all, but Glock is like the Scrap Yard of guns. I worked in a large gun store (12-15 thousand guns sold a year)for almost 5 years and sold more Glocks and had the fewest problems or complants from their owners. Plus, we were the largest law enforcement dealer in the state of Ohio, with over 70% of the departments buying Glocks. I will let that speak for itself.

If I wasn't able to get my H&K for such a good price I would have gotten a Glock 17.

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SIG guy here, hence the name. Got a G26, but haven't spent much time with it. We all have favorites. SYKCO is the knife fav.

Of course! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

I know Sig Sauer is a reliable gun, it just doesn't feel right in my hand.

Although, the gun that feels best in my hand is a classic 1911... but I still went for the USP. Go figure.