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Re: JYD Death Chat III [Re: coyotebc] #316069 11/19/09 04:25 AM
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Some suggest that the racking sound gives away your position.
Some also suggest that you don't want to give the bad guys the chance to shoot first

That's a good point.

My shotgun's not loaded anyway. I use my 9mm for security detail.


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Re: JYD Death Chat III [Re: Walker] #316070 11/19/09 04:26 AM
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I think more education and other programs that give youth hope is the best way to help fight crime.
You need a multi prong approach but it needs to include those aspects

That's very true..The problem around here is the gangs and the way they recruit high school kids to commit crimes. If they get caught they are underage and get released the next day.
We've got the same problem here centered around the drug trade.


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Re: JYD Death Chat III [Re: Magnum22] #316071 11/19/09 04:28 AM
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well, i have two thoughts in response to that.

one, if he's not deterred, i'm glad i still have a shotgun.

two, if deterrent is your primary objective, i'd rather have a pistol, even small caliber, with a laser aiming module. that red dot on your chest has got to be terrifying, no matter the caliber.

still, refer to part one. maybe a shotgun with a loud action and a laser (just for intimidation) would be the best option.


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Re: JYD Death Chat III [Re: Private Klink] #316072 11/19/09 04:28 AM
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Even the Sheriff himself said that folks should be prepared to care for themselves

It's not just a good idea, it's the law! [Linked Image from i6.photobucket.com]

POLICE HAVE NO RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT THE INDIVIDUAL (NOR SHOULD THEY)

Police have no legal duty to respond and prevent crime or protect the victim. There have BEEN OVER 10 various supreme and state court cases the individual has never won. Notably, the Supreme Court STATED about the responsibility of police for the security of your family and loved ones is "You, and only you, are responsible for your security and the security of your family and loved ones. That was the essence of a U.S. Supreme Court decision in the early 1980's when they ruled that the police do not have a duty to protect you as an individual, but to protect society as a whole."


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Re: JYD Death Chat III [Re: Joe Fowler] #316073 11/19/09 04:29 AM
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I need a little schooling on shotgun ammo...

I have a box of "Federal Game Load" that says, "1 oz. shot, 8 shot"

Is that 8 one ounce bbs?

How does that compare to other "home defense" loads?


Joe - that refers to a total weight of 1 ounce of size #8 shot, which is really birdshot. Generally, you want larger size pellets for home defense in order to stop an intruder though any shot at very close range will help. The smallest that I like is #4 buckshot, up to the aforementioned duplex load. Just keep in mind that a shotgun is normally a close range weapon unless you are shooting slugs. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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Re: JYD Death Chat III [Re: Magnum22] #316074 11/19/09 04:30 AM
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well, i have two thoughts in response to that.

one, if he's not deterred, i'm glad i still have a shotgun.

two, if deterrent is your primary objective, i'd rather have a pistol, even small caliber, with a laser aiming module. that red dot on your chest has got to be terrifying, no matter the caliber.

still, refer to part one. maybe a shotgun with a loud action and a laser (just for intimidation) would be the best option.

Exactly.

We live in a very safe neighborhood. But I know anything could happen and it's best to be prepared and educated.


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Re: JYD Death Chat III [Re: Joe Fowler] #316075 11/19/09 04:31 AM
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I need a little schooling on shotgun ammo...

Glean the knowledge of the Swamp!

What's The Best 12 Gauge Round?

Shortcut answer? #1 buck.


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Re: JYD Death Chat III [Re: Joe Fowler] #316076 11/19/09 04:32 AM
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I don't want to assume anyone is watching my back..especially when my wife and I are threatened with a break in.


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Re: JYD Death Chat III [Re: Private Klink] #316077 11/19/09 04:32 AM
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Thanks Tom, that's very helpful. The 8 shot is fun for plinking, but I should get something a little more substantial.

Thanks again.

Ok, I'm off to bed.


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Re: JYD Death Chat III [Re: Walker] #316078 11/19/09 04:34 AM
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I totally agree, which is why I recommend a 12 gauge shotgun with buckshot. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />


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Re: JYD Death Chat III [Re: Andy Wayne] #316079 11/19/09 04:36 AM
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The Popular 12 Gauge - By Chuck Hawks - Another ammo comparison.


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Re: JYD Death Chat III [Re: Private Klink] #316080 11/19/09 04:36 AM
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night mr. fowler.


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