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Re: More Scrapper 5 Action. [Re: Horn Dog] #361775 08/09/09 03:07 PM
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I really like the S5 too.
The RMD has been in the drawer since I got this one, but I'm going to
have to really get the two out and check them out, side by side.

Has anyone tried that yet?


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Re: More Scrapper 5 Action. [Re: Horn Dog] #361776 08/09/09 03:33 PM
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The G10 one I had, at least, seemed very smooth and did not seem to provide much traction. I have felt other manufacturers applications that provide much more grip.

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Re: More Scrapper 5 Action. [Re: DotD] #361777 08/09/09 04:01 PM
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I really like the S5 too.
The RMD has been in the drawer since I got this one, but I'm going to
have to really get the two out and check them out, side by side.

Has anyone tried that yet?

I knew I was forgetting something. Why don't you do a little comparison for us?


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Re: More Scrapper 5 Action. [Re: Horn Dog] #361778 08/09/09 04:03 PM
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I really like the S5 too.
The RMD has been in the drawer since I got this one, but I'm going to
have to really get the two out and check them out, side by side.

Has anyone tried that yet?

I knew I was forgetting something. Why don't you do a little comparison for us?

yes, please! +1! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


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Re: More Scrapper 5 Action. [Re: Horn Dog] #361779 08/09/09 04:19 PM
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Thanks for the review and great pictures HD. My entry into this addiction was CS. Master Hunter. After reading reviews on the then new Camp Tramp, I became a member of the Swamprat team. Feeding my addiction I then grabbed a few of Busse Combat. I watched Dan and Co grow now through the years and have many of his offerings.

I have almost sold my soul to the RMD. I look forward to getting my paws on the S5LE in infi. It will take one heck of a knife to bump the illustrious RMD from it's perch.

But, if someone like you, who so obviously tests his equipment can make such a claim, then the gauntlet is thrown back in Eric's court.

And we're all winners.

Re: More Scrapper 5 Action. [Re: Raker13] #361780 08/09/09 04:28 PM
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Yikes! A gauntlet thrown in Eric's court? Talk about mixed metaphors. Yeesh.

Re: More Scrapper 5 Action. [Re: Raker13] #361781 08/09/09 06:25 PM
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Yikes! A gauntlet thrown in Eric's court? Talk about mixed metaphors. Yeesh.

No gauntlet. The Ratmandu can do anything the Scrapper 5 can do and maybe a bit more with its full tang construction. It's just a matter of preference. The Scrapper's Res C handle is lighter, but you can beat on the Ratmandu's full tang handles without harming them. I like them both, but it's nice to have a lighter knife sometimes. And then there are those pesky squirrels who eat Res C.


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Re: More Scrapper 5 Action. [Re: Horn Dog] #361782 08/09/09 06:28 PM
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I have searched in vain for a 5" knife I like better than the Ratmandu. The new RC-5 is just too fat and heavy. Same with the Busse BATAC. The Dumpster mutts are light and compact, but the handles are a bit cramped for me. I broke my BRKT Vest Pocket Bowie in half batoning with it. But this Scrapper 5 has all the performance of the RMD at lighter weight. And the mudder handle fits me about as well as the RMD's excellent handle. I rate this S5 at the top of the 5" knife heap. Now if Mike Stewart makes a 5" Bravo in CPM 154, that might compete.

I am like you on this S5 Vic. The S5 (now satin and convexed with some other minor tweaks) is at or near the TOP of my 4.5" - 5" heap right now. It just offers a GREAT blade shape, Incredible steel, awesome fit, feel, ergos (and balance after the Res-C mods) at a lighter weight comparable to most 4" bladed knives and can do about anything as well or better than most any knife in it's 5" bladed size catagory. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />



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I have a real hard time between the S5 and RMD, I like the lighter version but the RMD's handle is so nice

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Yep. While the blade style is a bit different, I think the S5 is a SY version of the RMD. A 5" long 3/16" thick saber ground blade of 52100 steel just works for me. And the mudder handle beats the heck out of the small handles on the YK and DM, even if it isn't quite as nice as the RMD handle. My only compaint with the RMD is the weight. It's a heavy knife for its size.

I agree with both of you on the RMD as well.

I actually prefer the blade "Shape" of the S5 more with it's arched spine and dropped point. I find this blade shape more versatile for task/chore type uses. I actually dropped the point on my S5 just a bit more.

The RMD is still an AWESOME knife and a worthy contender to the S5 and I DO like the fit/feel/ergos of the RMD's handle, but I also feel the S5 is just as comfortable and just as capable a knife at a lighter more carry friendly weight.

But, while I like the feel and function of Res-C, I do like the nicer looks and quality of micarta. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

The two best improvments I feel that could be made to the RMD would be to "skeletonize" the RMD's handle/tang to cut weight and have it's blade shape a bit more like the S5's (Mini SJTAC shape) - arched spine/dropped point. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif" alt="" />

* For the record, my favorite Bark River (although a shorter 4.0" Bravo length blade) is the Canadian Special:

With Vex:

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The BRKT Canadian Special might look odd to some and some won't be able to deal with it's lack of a guard, but for me it works like a CHAMP and feels like a natural extension of my hand (nice satin/convex grind and sheath as well. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/paperbag.gif" alt="" />)

In many ways, the S5 is like my Canadian Special (to me), but with choil, a larger/longer blade and Res-C.

The VEX is also VERY nice for it's size. But, I am REALLY liking this 5" blade on the S5 "WITH" it's light weight. Most 5" blades are just a bit heavy.
The S5 with it's 5" blade length on a knife that weighs comparable to most 4" bladed knives is AWESOME!!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif" alt="" />

I have said it before and I will say again:

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If I (or Jerry) could skeletonize the handle of my RMD to remove some handle weight (and drop the point on my RMD a bit - which I will probably do), then the RMD vs. S5 would even be VERY hard to choose. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />


When I worked on my Bog Dog II concept, I was originally think about a 4.5" blade. But, I now I would rather have the Bog Dog II concept with about a 5.0" blade. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

Concept Rats!!! - Rat Jack & Bog Dog II

I would still be VERY interested in the Rat Jack concept as well!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crossfingers.gif" alt="" /> .... and would also WISH for the Rat Jack concept to ALSO have the skeletonized tang! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crossfingers.gif" alt="" />

I am VERY willing to bet Jerry could make a LOT of sales on those two. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> I WISH he would!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crossfingers.gif" alt="" />

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Re: More Scrapper 5 Action. [Re: Horn Dog] #361783 08/09/09 06:31 PM
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I have both. The micarta handle feels better to me, but the black G10 looks better. The micarta one feels a little thicker, too.

+1

I have both and concure. My G10 feels narrower and is more rounded/radiused.
My micarta feel fatter and is more square.

But, the G10 still weighs about 1 ounce more.

Along with "Wishing" for a skeletonized tang on my RMD, I have always wanted to round/radius the scales a bit more.

It has been on my list of things to do for a long time. But, I just haven't spent much belt sander time in a while.

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Re: More Scrapper 5 Action. [Re: KnifeGuy] #361784 08/09/09 06:38 PM
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that's one of the better vex pics I've seen


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Re: More Scrapper 5 Action. [Re: fastcamo] #361785 08/09/09 07:15 PM
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that's one of the better vex pics I've seen

Thanks.

I don't usually get good quality pics. But, sometimes get "Lucky".

This is my personal favorite of the Vex though:

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I LOVE the linen micarta!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> Gorgeous to me! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif" alt="" />

I think I had a good outdoor lighting day. Outdoor (natural) lighting seems to work very well "sometimes"! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />


Here are some others:

Various in hand angles:

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Compared to HCLE with different grips aligned to show more handle and usable blade of Vex in a smaller smaller package vs. two grips of HCLE.

* Other than the HCLE's handle being a bit small for me, on a knife sized like the VEX and HCLE, I think NO choil is a much better option IMO.
I just don't need to choke up on a 4" blade. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />


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As much as I LOVE the S5 for it's little bit extra size and all-round abilities, the VEX is IMO probably the BEST smaller 4" or so knife from ALL Busse and kin choices I have handled. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif" alt="" />

The S5 is probably better IMO for woods/trail/camping all-round use.

But, the Vex is probably a better choice for those looking to EDC a fixed blade or just want a little lighter and smaller blade.

Even with linen micarta, the Vex is lighter because of it's thinner steel and over-all size.

I haven't been able to use my Vex much. Just a bit around my house. But, it is a SLICER by design and came pretty sharp. I believe once I get a "Great" edge, the Vex will be a MEGA slicer!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" />

But, the S5 is much more robust and tougher steel. And SR-101 gets NICE and sharp!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

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Re: More Scrapper 5 Action. [Re: KnifeGuy] #361786 08/09/09 07:28 PM
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Between the S5, Vex, M9LE, Waki, NMSFNO, Regulator, re-release of DFCG in desert color and such, we have been given some GREAT knives in recent months. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

I have to include the Killa Zilla. I couldn't afford nor justify with it's WAY high price. But, I was fortunate to see and handle in person and even if too high priced for me and IMO, it is still AMAZING! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

Some of the new guys have come at an "Opportune" time! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />
And us older guys are lucky to still be around. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

"Classics" have been recently released. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif" alt="" />

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