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Re: My new fire-kit ! [Re: Momaw] #385521 01/07/10 02:55 PM
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Great thread and kit. Always love seeing your dogs in the wild.


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Re: My new fire-kit ! [Re: Momaw] #385522 01/08/10 02:14 AM
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If you ever want to make char cloth yourself, it's really easy and you can make huge stockpiles of the stuff quickly.

You will need:
- fire
- a fire-proof steel (not aluminum, not tin) container which seals reasonably tightly
- a screwdriver, nail, awl, or similar tool
- cloth of cotton or linen. Do not use synthetics or synthetic blends. Some people swear by old bath towels, but I've not had any problems with old T-shirts, or even new fabric

1.) Cut your cloth into squares. The bigger the piece, the longer it burns, but the more wasteful it becomes. Between 1 inch and 2 inches square should be fine.

2.) Take your steel container and punch a small hole in the top of it. It only needs to be 1/8th of an inch or so.

3.) Stuff the cloth into the container. Do not pack tightly. Just toss it in casually until the container is full. Put the lid on.

4.) Build your fire. Once you start to see coals and your fire is really starting to generate some heat, put the container into the fire. Try to pile coals around it so that is being heated from all sides.

5.) After a while, you will see smoke escaping from the vent hole in the container. It will get progressively more nasty until eventually the gasses discharging from the vent hole will ignite. Once this flame goes out, promptly remove the container from the heat and let it cool.

6.) When the container is cool enough to handle with your bare hands, you can open it. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Char cloth should be a rich pure black, but it should still be cloth. That is it should be flexible. If you end up with something so brittle that it crumbles when you touch it, or if there is just a cup full of char in the bottom of the container, you cooked the cloth too long. Start over.

If the cloth is not black, but dark brown, and does not catch a spark easily, you didn't cook it long enough. You can throw it back on the fire.

If the cloth is black in places but has brown spots, it didn't cook thoroughly. This could be because you packed too much cloth in (there needs to be air space for the heat to get in and the exhaust gasses to get out), because the container was not heated evenly (remember to bank the coals up a bit), or your container is just too big.
Cool,thanks for the info.What sort of steel container do you recommend.The thrift stores always have those containers that come full of popcorn or cookies.Are they adequate or to thin?I imagine if they are made of steel and not soldered together they would work?


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Re: My new fire-kit ! [Re: myketheknife] #385523 01/08/10 05:07 AM
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Some people swear by Altoids tins. I use a tin that contained tea, it's about 2 by 3 inches at the base by 3 inches tall. Think small. You can get a LOT of cloth scraps into a tin even without forcing it. If you're going to try and use some kind of like a cookie tin, broad and flat, the challenge is going to be heating it evenly so that you don't end up with a wide variety of different levels of charring. Something like a 2 gallon popcorn tin is just total overkill. A normal steel soup can would probably work fine if you have a side-cutting can opener and use mechanic's wire to hold it closed.

The thickness of the container isn't really a factor, the steel isn't going to get hot enough to have any problems just laying in an open fire. But solder would melt, that's a good point.

Re: My new fire-kit ! [Re: Momaw] #385524 01/08/10 02:31 PM
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good thread!! lots of info!


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Re: My new fire-kit ! [Re: direwolf] #385525 01/08/10 09:51 PM
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Ok,smaller tin makes sense,you don't need to make a lot at a time<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif" alt="" />,thanks.


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