Here's a cople of pics to give you an idea of how it might compare to the SOD and the Swamp Rat Ratchet (which chops quite well for it's size BTW... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />).

So to answer your question... I envision it being about 11 inches overall.





I envision it in S7 or SR101, and Dan if you made this and I had the funds... I'd buy at least 10 if I can afford it... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

this is sooooo cool looking!

Regulator handles though!

YES- this is VERY nice-I'll take a few <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

Light and fast chopper on the order of the Bushwacker Mistress. Makes perfect sense to have res-c on a chopper like that.

Nicely stated. It is important for me to hear from as many Dogs as possible.


By the way the feedback is outstanding.

Horn Dog thanks for doing this

Dan

This I would buy this knife. I might buy several of this knife.

September the 10th 2009 when I first drew up the design in the pic !!!!

"The Camp Hound !!!!

This is one for the yard !

Imagine the old Swamprat Ratchet, now extend the flat on the back of the head another 3" further forward, now bring the edge sweep up till it meets it forming a point.This way you have a knife/hatchet hybrid that can chop small tinder for the campfire but can also be used to cut stuff in the same way as a knife.I'm thinking one of the new Regulator handles would be cool on this funky little camp tool as well !!!!!

For steel lets go with 1/4" stock SR101. "

When the competition faded away I went and had the custom in my avatar made based upon the similar type of tool !

Oh, need to add...

A Wharncliffe Dogfather/SOD.

I love straight edges and big blades.

If we cant get a scrap axe, love that rainwalker design but stretch it out to 12"oal, and a reg/dereg handle.

Looks like a bit of pitman design also. I don't know where all the credit goes. When brainstorming ideas feed off each other.

12 inches works for me too.

As far as design goes... It's a BUSSE design, just with a few added ideas by Pit, myself and others. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

I have made a ton of suggestions in the past...... But, I will go ahead and chime in again and even throw out another along with the popular requests for a BIG 12"+ chopper.......


+1 - something along those lines.....



Cool, but how about 2" - 3" longer and a bit thinner so as to not get monster heavy. Keep weight to about 20 - 23 ounces tops.


- 101 <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


Yep <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> - and the Regulator's handle is just VERY WELL suited for big choppers. I think the Regulator is about as small a blade as the handle is suited for - all else - BIGGER on that handle!




I would be fine with that name.




I like the idea MORE Choppers based on World Class chopper designs. The competition knife designs used by the competitive users are VERY GOOD designs. In competition, they cut a NICE diversified variety of stuff: 2x4's, hanging rope, cardboard tubes, delicate straws, etc. to prove all-around performance. I love watching the videos.
Check out "Some" of the various competitions videos at Bladesports.org

See videos of events: Bladesports.org - Past Events videos , but I doubt Dan and Jerry would likely refer to them as the "World Chopper Series". They don't like to imply in ANY way as to "Copy" other designs. Even if about every knife made at this point mostly resembles something already made at some point. Still Most designs take "General" features from existing designs. This is just reality.

*** However, One significant drawback to "Many" of the competition knives now being used is lack of a usable point. In competition, one thing they don't use it the point. So, to keep maximum weight forward and knives within specs, they tend to get very square or blocky at the tip of the blades in these competitions. For "Real World" field use and such, I like to maintain "Some" tip for digging into various things I need a tip to get into. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> For a chopper, I don't need a long narrow pointy tip like on the Regulator. Just a bit of a functional one - Such as on some of the leaf shaped blades shown below or Goloks shown further below. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />



Yep again! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />



YEEEEEESSSSS - I LOVE Leaf blade shapes - They are great for "Woods" use. Great for chopping, good spine for batoning and usable point! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

I would like the Scrapweiler with about an 8 inch blade though. Search for Scrapweiler with the search tool - I LOVE Leaf shape. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> Change out the handle to put on the Regulator handle on the Scrapweiler - AND MAKE MINE SATIN - PLEEEEEEEASE! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crossfingers.gif" alt="" />

...... Then make about a 12" - 13" version.




Yes, but even longer to about 12" - 13" blade would be AWESOME!
With the Res-C and hidden tang saving about 2-4 ounces in the handle, the weight could be redistributed forward to gain MORE CHOPPING POWER while still being very nimble in the hand and not too heavy.
The Bushwacker weighs about 22.0 ounces. I would want to keep a 12" - 13" Scrap Yard Big chopper close to 20 - 23 ounces.




Yeeeeeesssssss..... I know what you are saying. I FEEEEEL your need. 16" might be a bit long considering a Waki has a 17" blade. I want a 1 handed blade and keep weight down for control. The BRKT Golok is:

BRKT - Golok = 17.5 ounces; 0.210” thick; 11.5” blade; 17.5” oal



I like all this talk about a 12" blade. And I think the new Regulator Res-C handle is HIGHLY suited as a CHOPPER handle.

I would like 12" - 13" blade, BUT not too heavy or too thick.

I think if the blade is kept at about 0.1875" - .20" a good weight and balance could be acheived that is easy to carry, fast and nimble in the hand and yet still a VERY powerful chopper if with a 12" - 13" blade.

I think some weight saving could be achieved along with creating more forward/heavy chopping power by having the blade height closer to the handle narrower. The DFLE is about 1.75" tall blade near the choil. The Regulator is about 1.625" tall blade near the choil.

The Bark River Golok is about 1.125" tall blade near the choil and only about 1.33" tall at most.

I think a Scrap Yard design with a blade height near the choil of about 1.25" - 1.375" or so that tapers up to about 1.8" - 1.9" or so would be pretty cool.... with similar blade shapes to the blades shown below.

I would love to photo-chop some ideas together....., but unfortunately told not to. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
However, hopefully it is OK to post some other made knives to help get my point across if pics and photo-shop is not wanted (??????)

I like the following Bowie/Bolo/Competition Chopper styled blades - The following blade "Shapes" with about a 12" - 13" blade, 0.1875" - .20" thick and the Regulator handles - Hopefully, would stay around 21 - 23 ounces or so (????):

JNeilson's Competition Chopper:



Bark River Rio Grand Bowie:



Dan Farr Competition Chopper:




The above blades at about 12" - 13" would be AWESOME on a Regulator handle!!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crossfingers.gif" alt="" />


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I STILL like some of the ideas I have tossed out in the past. Scrapweiler with the Regulator handle would be awesome along with a Scrap Yard Mega-Muk would rank among my top wishes. Some sort of 12" - 13" Parang or Golok would be cool as well. etc.


+1



+1 - If done right. I have seen MANY variations on the Parang (same with the Golok actually). There are just MANY variations of both - to the point where some Goloks look like Parangs and some Parangs look like Goloks (?????). I think a Scrap Yard beefed up version of something along the lines of the Martindale Golok #2 would be cool. And I have seen quite a few variations along those lines that I like a lot. - Most of which I would call a Golok. Key for me would be to have a shallow edge belly (not too much edge curve), a little bit of tapered weight with a narrower height blade near the handle, tapered to a bit taller blade towards the tip, but still have a bit of a usable tip.... again, I would LOVE to photo-chop some ideas... but.... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

If I can't do a photo-chop, the hopefully an "idea" of the blade shape from these pics:





Again, about a 12" - 14" blade on something like above - with the Regulator handle - would be a VERY awesome and usable tool - if kept closer to 0.1875" thick so as to be fast and nimble in the hand. With the forward balance from the blade shape, and a bit heavier than a typical 0.1" - 0.12" or so Martindale, the Scrap Yard version would have a LOT of chopping power. Again, I would hope to keep weight to around 20 - 23 ounces tops.

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Sneaky - Nice work. I personally am not so big on big Clips in my blade. I don't need a massive James Bowie fighter. I like my TT Regulator, but I would prefer a leaf shaped blade like the Scrapweiler - for my uses - woods, camp, trail, etc. To me, the top sketch is a massive Bowie Fighter styled design. Many might like such a knife. Many probably prefer the looks and aesthetics of it. The lines are pretty classic. But, while it can chop - like the Regulator "can" chop, that BIG "Clip" at the front of the blade compromises much of what "COULD" be better chopping ability and batoning ability for in the field use by having the clip. Having the clip provides a bit more neutral balance and more piercing penetration - of a fighter. But, it is a compromise that I don't need. - I am not personally looking for a large fighter. If the blade had more mass towards the tip with a spine more suited and functional for field use, it would be a better chopper, better at batoning (especially without a false edge) and better for all-around "Field" use that I would personally prefer.

The "2nd/bottom" sketch in the pic offers a lot of promise. I would probably tweak a few things for my preferences. But, it is close to what I have in mind based on the above Martindale Golok ideas.

I don't mind a "False" edge at the point of that 2nd blade, but I would not want it sharp. Otherwise, I think it could be/would be a very functional field chopper and tool. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />





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I "Like" SR-77. It is amazingly tough. But, I still prefer SR-101 quite easily.

I like a good machete. But, the one of the main problems with machetes is their lack of ability to hold a good edge. I value a knives ability to hold a good edge. While SR-77 holds an edge a lot better than most any machete, SR-101 holds and edge "Noticeably" better than SR-77. SR-101 is PLENTY tough. I wish SR-101 was as corrosion resistant as INFI, but it is not. Still, I can deal with rust. And I still like my edges to stay sharp. Further, SR-101 prices are VERY comparable to SR-77 prices. The Regulator was very well priced. So, I don't think there is any real significant price benifit with SR-77. So, I still prefer SR-101 over SR-77 for my requests...... Actually, I "PREFER" INFI, but I guess Dan can't put INFI on every knife and keep the prices the same. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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