Question on reg and dereg
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04/20/10 12:36 AM
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I had some on order but saw two on BF for about same cost in the store so i got them. The first is a Reg but is is a test team version black/black numbered. The dereg isnt but there is a difference as far as choil and blade shape.
I didn't realize they were different when i bought them.I am assuming the test team is the one before the change and that the new regs are just like the dereg minus the top guard? I thought the TTs were tan handle or it seems i have seen more tan TT versions than the black.
Can't decide which one i like better. I thought about picking up another reg so i would have all three versions.
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Re: Question on reg and dereg
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04/20/10 01:09 AM
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Sethrotull
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TT Regs have a full flat grind, square choil, none rounded spine. They came Black/Black, Tan/Black, and the oh so wanted Green/Sage.
Both great knives.
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Re: Question on reg and dereg
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04/20/10 03:50 AM
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Nice score,get the third. Oh yeah there's four versions,the LE REG also, so far only available from a ganzaa or a show. FFG & satin finished.
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Re: Question on reg and dereg
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04/20/10 07:22 AM
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G20 - Howdy and Welcome to the Scrap Yard! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Congrats on a great score - the Regs and DeRegs are great knives, and the Test Team version is special. I have a sage/green handled one myself! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Question on reg and dereg
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04/20/10 01:25 PM
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sumoj275
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Hello there and welcome to the Yard. The TT did have differences between the release Reg/Derg. As noted the choil, saber grind and non-diff heat-treat for the release Reg/Dereg. Enjoy your new blades, grab a LE and a release Regulator if you can while the prices are right.
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Re: Question on reg and dereg
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04/20/10 03:40 PM
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Hello there and welcome to the Yard. The TT did have differences between the release Reg/Derg. As noted the choil, saber grind and non-diff heat-treat for the release Reg/Dereg. Enjoy your new blades, grab a LE and a release Regulator if you can while the prices are right. Thanks for the replies. What does non-diff heat-treat mean? What does that mean performance wise?
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Re: Question on reg and dereg
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04/20/10 03:57 PM
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Hello there and welcome to the Yard. The TT did have differences between the release Reg/Derg. As noted the choil, saber grind and non-diff heat-treat for the release Reg/Dereg. Enjoy your new blades, grab a LE and a release Regulator if you can while the prices are right. Thanks for the replies. What does non-diff heat-treat mean? What does that mean performance wise? The original Test Team model had a flat grind with differential heat treating. That means that the edge area was tempered harder than the rest of the blade. This is sometimes done with some steels to make the rest of the blade less brittle and less likely to break when used in hard impact. It is often done with swords which receive a lot of shock and impact forces. It is also more costly to do than a through-tempered blade of uniform hardness. With the increased strength of the saber grind on the new Regulator, and after testing, it was determined that differential tempering was not necessary on the Regulator, reducing the cost of the knife. So the new Reg and Dereg are through tempered. As thick as these blades are, I wouldn't worry about it. It does not affect edge holding or cutting performance. You will likely never know the difference. In fact, the new through-tempered Regulators out performed the flat ground TT models in chopping tests, probably due to the heavier blade on the new saber grind.
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Re: Question on reg and dereg
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04/20/10 04:42 PM
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Thanks for the replies. What does non-diff heat-treat mean? What does that mean performance wise? The original Test Team model had a flat grind with differential heat treating. That means that the edge area was tempered harder than the rest of the blade. This is sometimes done with some steels to make the rest of the blade less brittle and less likely to break when used in hard impact. It is often done with swords which receive a lot of shock and impact forces. It is also more costly to do than a through-tempered blade of uniform hardness. With the increased strength of the saber grind on the new Regulator, and after testing, it was determined that differential tempering was not necessary on the Regulator, reducing the cost of the knife. So the new Reg and Dereg are through tempered. As thick as these blades are, I wouldn't worry about it. It does not affect edge holding or cutting performance. You will likely never know the difference. In fact, the new through-tempered Regulators out performed the flat ground TT models in chopping tests, probably due to the heavier blade on the new saber grind. Thanks Horn dog.
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Re: Question on reg and dereg
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04/20/10 04:57 PM
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