A 60 grain 22. found it here. Lazi, whatta ya think.

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/AMM057-5.html

oh and I'm still curious about the shotgun adapters and barrels. I would think that those rounds fired from a shotgun would take it down to the noise of the firearm mechanics.

I know it is gadgetish stuff but I'm a gadget guy.

hadn't hadn't even seen the 60 grains. i want to see what it can do. worst that can happen is I'd have some more ammo on deck for a rainy day.

haha, lazi, I was thinking about the adaptors you mentioned. Interesting concept. I have a RWD diana model 45 .177 air rifle. That thing is as loud as a 22. I figure this ammo would be quieter than that. SO FAR, for the money I'll stick with my pellet rifle. BUT in a SHTF situation quiet is the way to go. Again, interesting concept.

actually worse can happen but ive only seen it mentioned and not any mention of it happening.

I just found something on a site called badideatshirts and I am going to try and put it up. Think Y'all might like it.

News flash: A man in a thick German accent is calling U.S. installations and saying "You are imperialist Americans and we do not want you here in Germany; and we will get you out our neighborhood."

Investigative journalism begins now. At least I won't be bored today.

Ok here it is.

JJ, BE CAREFUL! There are some MAJOR nut jobs out there!

I'm always vigilant, plus I look like a German. No U.S. markings on my car and no uniform.

yEAH BUT YOU DON'T HAVE BLONDE HAIR!

Neither do most of these people or Hitler. That's the Scandinavians.

"Uhm... Sir, you are going to have to call our media relations chief. I can't talk to the news about anything at all or I'll get in trouble," said Pvt. Chicken %#&@