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|  S7 VS SR77
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04/26/07 03:42 PM |  
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bigoceanJoined:  Feb 2007 Posts: 522  OP Scrapper |  
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No not really... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/loopy.gif" alt="" />
 But all recent reading of what INFI is based has got me thinking. Is SR77's chemical make-up different to S7 or just it's molecular structure different from SYK's proprietary heat treat?
 In other words, is SR77 just S7 with SYK's special heat treat protocol and a different name for marketing/whatever purposes? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
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|  Re: S7 VS SR77
[Re: bigocean]
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04/26/07 03:47 PM |  
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ArkieJoined:  Mar 2007 Posts: 234   Mutt |  
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If I'm not mistaken, somewhere on the main website states as much. 
 I'm too drunk to taste this chicken
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|  Re: S7 VS SR77
[Re: bigocean]
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04/26/07 04:13 PM |  
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thombroganJoined:  Sep 2006 Posts: 278   Mongrel |  
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is SR77 just S7 with SYK's special heat treat protocol and a different name for marketing/whatever purposes?Ya, d00d!  It's purposeful marketing.  SR-77 is heat-treated to behave like a magnified version of S7 (before Dan and Patti got to it, only AngelSword was doing such things with S7), so the different name lets you know it's not just heated/quenched/tempered.  That said, 'plain old S7' is simply amazing and making it even better is, well, even better! 
 "I knew you before you knew you had hands" ~Tracey Brogan
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|  Re: S7 VS SR77
[Re: thombrogan]
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04/27/07 02:50 AM |  
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Ron AthayJoined:  Oct 2006 Posts: 116   Mutt |  
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Rumor time. I think I remember reading early on that SR77 (like INFI and SR101) has added Nitrogen and Cobalt to improve sharpening/edge properties. Maybe someone who knows more than me can comment.Ron Athay
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|  Re: S7 VS SR77
[Re: Ron Athay]
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04/27/07 12:08 PM |  
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thombroganJoined:  Sep 2006 Posts: 278   Mongrel |  
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That's a cool sounding rumor!  I had only heard that the a rigorous heat-treatment protocol was given to S7 to make it 'SR-77.' 
 "I knew you before you knew you had hands" ~Tracey Brogan
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|  Re: S7 VS SR77
[Re: thombrogan]
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04/28/07 05:19 PM |  
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Horn DogJoined:  Feb 2007 Posts: 14,586   Junk Yard Dog |  
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I don't know how Dan makes SR77, but I am glad he does. Up until recently, my favorite steel for big knives has been 1095. Sometimes it breaks, but it is easy to sharpen and holds a good edge. Today I saw a dead old hardened oak limb had blown down. It has been dry, warm, and windy here. I decided to cut up the limb with my Ontario camp machete rather than get out the chain saw. The limb wasn't that big. Just a few chops and my hand was stinging. This oak is like a rock. Its the kind of wood that you would rather saw than chop. I got out the Dog Father. The heavy blade and Res C handle made chopping much easier, but still hard. When I finished, I felt the edge and it needed a touch up. Just a few strokes with a steel and it was sharp as ever. I love this SR77 steel. ![[Linked Image from i173.photobucket.com]](http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w64/rivershaman/DF004.jpg) ![[Linked Image from i173.photobucket.com]](http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w64/rivershaman/DF003.jpg) 
 Horned, dangerous, and off my medication.
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|  Re: S7 VS SR77
[Re: Horn Dog]
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04/28/07 05:29 PM |  
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HorizonSonJoined:  Sep 2006 Posts: 88   Pooch |  
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From my limited understanding:
 SR-101 = 52-100 series ball-bearing steel
 
 SR-77 - S7 series high-impact tool steel
 
 IIRC... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />
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|  Re: S7 VS SR77
[Re: HorizonSon]
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04/29/07 11:40 AM |  
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LeatherfaceJoined:  Sep 2006 Posts: 1,743   Junk Yard Dog |  
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Horizon,That is pretty much the way I heard it as well!!
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|  Re: S7 VS SR77
[Re: Leatherface]
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04/29/07 12:12 PM |  
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Horn DogJoined:  Feb 2007 Posts: 14,586   Junk Yard Dog |  
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The intro in the Scrap Yard Knife site says that Dan really liked the shock taking qualities of S-7. I think S-7 is the basis for SR-77. Dan's 40 hour heat treatment transforms the S-7 into SR-77. At least that is what I get from their own web site. All I know for sure is it is tough. I have pounded the Dog Father and the S6 through knotted, dry, hard liveoak with no damage or failures. I destroyed the edge on a Condor 420HC doing much less. And 420HC is not all that bad a steel for most uses. 
 Horned, dangerous, and off my medication.
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|  Re: S7 VS SR77
[Re: Horn Dog]
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04/30/07 02:32 AM |  
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Andy WayneJoined:  Sep 2006 Posts: 7,208   Junk Yard Dog |  
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S7 is what jackhammer bits are made out of. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> And that’s “regular” S7, not SR77. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> That’s why they’re so tough and have no problems with concrete blocks. You could probably chop up your sidewalk if you wanted. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> 
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|  Re: S7 VS SR77
[Re: Andy Wayne]
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04/30/07 04:32 AM |  
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ColdOneJoined:  Feb 2007 Posts: 15,879   Junk Yard Dog |  
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SR77 - The stuff you can use to chop up jackhammer bits! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> 
 JYD#10
 Blade '08 - I challenge coined Dan Busse and WON!
 Blade '10 - The score is now 2-0!
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|  Re: S7 VS SR77
[Re: ColdOne]
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04/30/07 10:39 AM |  
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thombroganJoined:  Sep 2006 Posts: 278   Mongrel |  
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I would, but people will talk. 
 "I knew you before you knew you had hands" ~Tracey Brogan
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