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|  Re: I just got home from the Knob Creek sale
[Re: myketheknife]
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10/09/10 03:33 PM |  
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Magnum22Joined:  Dec 2006 Posts: 18,009   Junk Yard Dog |  
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|  Re: I just got home from the Knob Creek sale
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10/09/10 05:08 PM |  
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Private KlinkJoined:  Sep 2006 Posts: 47,627   Junk Yard Dog |  
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If I would have known that was going to be there, I would have paid good money for you to proxy for me! That thing is awesome. Yes, it IS awesome!  <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> 
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|  Re: I just got home from the Knob Creek sale
[Re: Private Klink]
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10/09/10 09:07 PM |  
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pitmanJoined:  Jan 2007 Posts: 2,795   Junk Yard Dog |  
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Here is a pic I just found comparing the Taz Rat and Chopweiler, to me you can see how the Chopweiler has been modded to make the Taz Rat. ![[Linked Image from img407.imageshack.us]](http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/8059/knob20creek201081020005.jpg) By pitdog2010  at 2010-10-09 |  |  |  
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|  Re: I just got home from the Knob Creek sale
[Re: pitman]
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10/09/10 10:27 PM |  
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JimJoined:  May 2007 Posts: 2,267  OP Junk Yard Dog |  
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Your picture indicates that they're a lot closer in size than I thought they were -- The Taz Rat felt much more compact than the Chopweiler to me, perhaps because it has a more neutral weight distribution. 
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|  Re: I just got home from the Knob Creek sale
[Re: pitman]
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10/10/10 02:10 AM |  
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Horn DogJoined:  Feb 2007 Posts: 14,586   Junk Yard Dog |  
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Here is a pic I just found comparing the Taz Rat and Chopweiler, to me you can see how the Chopweiler has been modded to make the Taz Rat. ![[Linked Image from img407.imageshack.us]](http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/8059/knob20creek201081020005.jpg) By pitdog2010  at 2010-10-09 I think they are very close. I actually like the smooth rounded contours of the Chopweiler. That flare in the handle actually works very well when chopping. 
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|  Re: I just got home from the Knob Creek sale
[Re: Horn Dog]
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10/10/10 03:51 AM |  
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Joe FowlerJoined:  Sep 2008 Posts: 2,711   Junk Yard Dog |  
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I agree, I'd take the Chopweiler over the new one. 
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|  Re: I just got home from the Knob Creek sale
[Re: Joe Fowler]
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10/10/10 04:07 AM |  
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pitmanJoined:  Jan 2007 Posts: 2,795   Junk Yard Dog |  
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I agree, I'd take the Chopweiler over the new one. I think they are designed for totally different purposes, the Chopweiler is an all round camp/survival blade and the Taz Rat a Fighting/survival blade. I posted the pic just to show that (I believe)they are from the same blank. |  |  |  
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|  Re: I just got home from the Knob Creek sale
[Re: pitman]
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10/10/10 01:16 PM |  
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Endeavour MorseJoined:  Feb 2010 Posts: 4,889   Junk Yard Dog |  
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HD - I love my new Chopweilers. They simply feel "right" to me. I'm excited about testing one of them, and after having satisfied my curiosity...pressing them into "go to survival knife" usage.
 Joe Fowler - held both at KC, and bought two Chopweilers.
 
 Pit, the pointed glass breaker on the Taz is longer than the end of the Chopweiler. This isn't too say that the Chopweiler blank isn't "longer" before they start grinding on it, but that I didn't feel they were the same while I was comparing them. I've been wrong before though - at least someone told me that ONCE <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />  <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
 
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|  Re: I just got home from the Knob Creek sale
[Re: Endeavour Morse]
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10/10/10 01:22 PM |  
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Endeavour MorseJoined:  Feb 2010 Posts: 4,889   Junk Yard Dog |  
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I've been studying the photo above, and can completely understand why Pit thinks its cut from a Chopweiler blank. This wasn't my impression at KC, but as I stated elsewhere....
 1) I was totally overwhelmed by the shear volume of Busse steel laying around everywhere.
 
 2) ...and this is important... It was so dark in the room we resorted to using flashlights to see what was available! Literally too dark to tell the color of certain items.
 
 The last point has me second guessing my dismissal of Pit's point.
 
 I also think the "melted edge treatment" on the Taz has clouded my judgment a little. I was impressed by this, and it contrasted sharply with the two Chopweilers I was carrying around.
 
 ETA: IIRC, the spine of the Taz is rounded off. This is what I meant by "melted edge treatment".
 
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 I am now a fictional British television police officer (currently a Detective Sgt) at Thames Valley Station. My governor is Detective Inspector Fred Thursday and it’s 1969.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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|  Re: I just got home from the Knob Creek sale
[Re: Endeavour Morse]
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10/10/10 04:49 PM |  
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JimJoined:  May 2007 Posts: 2,267  OP Junk Yard Dog |  
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Yep, that thick curved spine with rounded edges is ideal for batoning -- the picture that was posted over on Bladeforums had folks speculating that the spine might be sharpened as a band breaker, but it's not.  Also, I didn't really consider it as a fighter, but the glass breaker/skull penetrating pommel might argue otherwise -- honestly, I could have lived without the spike, but it might really appeal to some.  My preference would have been a flat pommel, angled to use for pounding tent-pegs.  Perhaps they tried to create a design to appeal to multiple markets, but I looked at it as a survival knife -- it should work well in that role. 
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|  Re: I just got home from the Knob Creek sale
[Re: Jim]
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10/10/10 05:09 PM |  
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Horn DogJoined:  Feb 2007 Posts: 14,586   Junk Yard Dog |  
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It appears that the Taz Rat is a more military version of the Chopweiler. It's not a bad looking knife. I'm a big fan of Swamp Rats of all kinds, even though I spend more time on this forum. 
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|  Re: I just got home from the Knob Creek sale
[Re: Jim]
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10/10/10 11:11 PM |  
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sumoj275Joined:  Nov 2008 Posts: 13,668   Junk Yard Dog |  
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Yep, that thick curved spine with rounded edges is ideal for batoning -- the picture that was posted over on Bladeforums had folks speculating that the spine might be sharpened as a band breaker, but it's not.  Also, I didn't really consider it as a fighter, but the glass breaker/skull penetrating pommel might argue otherwise -- honestly, I could have lived without the spike, but it might really appeal to some.  My preference would have been a flat pommel, angled to use for pounding tent-pegs.  Perhaps they tried to create a design to appeal to multiple markets, but I looked at it as a survival knife -- it should work well in that role. That is what has me wondering to, the pointed end.  Like someone pointed out, a modification can be done if desired. 
 Men you can't trust, women you can't trust, beasts you can't trust, but Bussekin steel you can trust
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