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Re: What is your SHTF rifle? [Re: Endeavour Morse] #561296 11/15/10 09:05 PM
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I will tell you who builds one of the best AR's for the buck aside from BCM is Spikes. I have gotten some components and lowers and these guys are impressive.

You can spend a ton for a quality AR but you don't have too.


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Re: What is your SHTF rifle? [Re: MonkeyBomb] #561297 11/15/10 09:29 PM
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MB, agreed.

I've not used Spikes products, but I know people who have (and are very pleased).

A "tier one" M4 build should not cost more than $1000 in today's market.....

BCM Blem Lower Group = $265 Delivered
BCM MidLength Upper Group with BCG / CH = $535
MagPul MOE Hanguards = $35
LMT Rear BUIS = $75 (average ARFCOM pricing)

$910 for an AWESOME AR type rifle.

If you want to buy a factory built "tier one" you should be able to get it for $1100ish. There have been a couple of Colt 6920's for under $1100 recently online.


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Re: What is your SHTF rifle? [Re: Endeavour Morse] #561298 11/17/10 09:22 PM
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Re: What is your SHTF rifle? [Re: ThePitbullofLove] #561299 11/17/10 11:30 PM
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You don't see a lot of people rocking the G43 as a SHTF gun.


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Re: What is your SHTF rifle? [Re: Endeavour Morse] #561300 11/18/10 03:15 AM
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Niiiice! I would be afraid to use that in all but the most DIRE situations though, it's such a valuable rifle. That's a beauty though Pit, no joke. 8mm Mauser has a lot of punch up close too, with a nearly 200 grain projectile, and it wouldn't be too terribly difficult to find I'd venture, it's a pretty common hunting round around here. People use a lot of sporterized Mausers at the ranges around here.


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Re: What is your SHTF rifle? [Re: El CacaFuego] #561301 11/19/10 06:41 PM
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Surplus 8mm (7.92x57mm) is still widely available. Unfortunately, its all corrosive. A friend had a G43 back in the 80's. There are very rare.


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Re: What is your SHTF rifle? [Re: Endeavour Morse] #561302 11/20/10 03:02 AM
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They had one on the shelf for a while at my local mom & pop Gun Store (where I purchased every firearm I own), and it was selling for a little over 2 grand. It was in amazing shape too, stock had the original finish, practically intact, and only a few nicks and scratches. The Nazi proof marks were fully intact as well, and very clear. I would have loved to have owned that rifle, its historical value was tremendous.


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Re: What is your SHTF rifle? [Re: El CacaFuego] #561303 11/22/10 01:01 AM
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Its been bugging me that I had not posted any tools yet, so here's a few samples.
If I was to go mobile, these would probably go in the truck.
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If moving about in an urban enviroment one of these would do. Tough to choose.
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If I made it to the hills and needed more range and Big Game ability this would do.
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Re: What is your SHTF rifle? [Re: Hooker] #561304 11/22/10 02:29 AM
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For me, if I had to move (BO) AR would be hard to beat. I prefer a pencil barrel with light weight accessories. Lots of ammo can be carried for it. If I am bugging in, I think it is hard to beat the FAL. Lots of punch for the size.

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Nice toys Hooker!

What ammo can you guys find for less 7.62x39 or 5.56/.223? I've noticed .223 has come down alot.


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Re: What is your SHTF rifle? [Re: imaginefj] #561306 11/22/10 06:39 PM
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Nice toys Hooker!

More new pics on the knives and gear thread.

What ammo can you guys find for less 7.62x39 or 5.56/.223? I've noticed .223 has come down alot.
Best deals seem to on 7.62x39 right now.


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Re: What is your SHTF rifle? [Re: Hooker] #561307 11/22/10 08:03 PM
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I'm digging that Norinco Hooker, nice rifle. I don't think I've seen any of those for sale around here. come to think of it, I've never even seen any Chinese AKs for sale around town...

a few questions for you, I can't quite read it, but does that mount on your second AK (Polish?) say Guntech? I've never seen that mount before. Is it solid? How much did it run you? I'm in the market for one for my Arsenal SLR-106, no other mounting solution will work for it so upper handgaurd rail it is.

And how does the 40 rounder for your FAL run? I've heard there are sometimes issues with lack of spring tension in that length mag.

Wally world has a smoking deal on 55 grain FMJs in .223, I think 4 ten spots for 100 rds in a value pack. The pricier ammo is going to be the Mil-spec 5.56, though I don't know why, I prefer my .223 A-MAX ballistic tips to mil steel core penetrator. Unless the russians or chinese invade us, I honestly don't forecast fighting armored infantry.

7.62x39 new production is really cheap right now, as long as you buy it by the case. CtD has good prices, although I noticed Wolf ammo went up. It all depends on where you look and what type of ammo you're buying specifically. MIL-surp russian ammo tends to be stupidly cheap, but it's corrosive.

Can anyone tell me why 5.56 NATO green tip is so popular and almost a dollar a shot??? I can't for the life of me figure out why people buy it up like hotcakes, when any 62 grain varmint round will do as well if not better ballistically.


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