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Re: What is your SHTF rifle? [Re: MonkeyBomb] #561272 11/08/10 07:39 AM
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M16A4 or M4A1. I am well accustom to both of these rifles since I train with them and carry them when in bad places. You didn't ask, but I'll take a 1911 for back up.

Re: What is your SHTF rifle? [Re: ] #561273 11/09/10 01:27 AM
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JB - Sure, it's a tad limited on reload and ROF, but that rifle is completely idiot proof (I oughtta know, I am one), and stupidly reliable. My M 91-30 Sniper goes bang every time I pull the trigger, and that's all it needs to do. Not my go to if the dead start walking, but it'll keep them off the perimeter no doubt. I love the fireball the carbines throw out!



Oh boy... where to start?

Had to upload a few new ones to photobucket, I repainted the M14, and added some killer glass to it, hehehe. Candace is only 2 components shy of being completely set up the way I want her (I'm sure I can find something else to bolt on though <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />)

My Ideal perimeter rifle. I was also considering adding an offset rail and a MRD to her, tilt the rifle sideways and boom, tough actin' Tinactin, CQB capable. The SEI Vortex flash hider actually cut nearly 2 inches from the rifle overall, and she handles amazingly well in house clearing. Not unlike handling a full length M16, IMO. She's my baby, I love her, and She's going to be slung on my shoulder, period. She's also the only rifle I own that I've named, it'd be like leaving behind a daughter. I also updated the paint job slightly, added more tan and made the pattern irregular. Blends beautifully with my ACUs.
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Just prior to mounting the glass:
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My Sidearm of choice, my Custom Taurus PT-1911 in .45 ACP. I've got the factory bushing installed right now, because the aftermarket stainless contoured bushing adds a fair bit of weight up front and changes the way it points. It's great for recoil control, but I snap shoot a bit low for point of impact. I'd rather have a good point than a low impact in home defense. Primary mag is 7 rounds, +1 in the tube, Pow'r'Ball +p+ ammo. Secondary is 7 rounds of Remington Golden Sabres. Nasty on top of Nasty, hehehe.

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And in the event of a lack of ammunition for my weapon of choice, I have options.

SLR-106F in 5.56, stock configuration. I'm torture testing this one, probably will never see a malfunction, it even eats the wolf steel cased crap no problems.
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My SGL-21, Russian Saiga converted by Arsenal (I believe you also have one of these right Architect?), with a few upgrades. Krebs Custom Rear sight Rail and modified safety, and an M16 A2 stock (for now.) I'm going to drop in an M4 stock when I can afford it, but for now I make due with what I got for free, lol.
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I really like toying with my firearms, it's a hobby right now, but it saves me a ton of money. I've never sent a firearm to a gunsmith for anything.

My M 91-30 sniper, well, most of it...

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...and the rest of it: the lightswitch is chest high on me, I'm 5'7".
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and I have a .22, great little meat getter.
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If I had my way, I'd throw every one in the back of the truck and pop smoke. Candace is a certainty, she will be with me when the world ends, and it's a good bet the two AKs will be as well, since they'd allow me to use almost whatever ammo I could find. The 91-30 could stand in in case the glass failed on the M14, and the .22 would defintely help in potting small game. Can't use the rifles if you can't eat right? If I had to choose ONLY one, I could make Candace work for almost anything, including CQB.


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Re: What is your SHTF rifle? [Re: El CacaFuego] #561274 11/09/10 04:48 AM
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Re: What is your SHTF rifle? [Re: Private Klink] #561275 11/09/10 02:05 PM
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El Caca,

I own three of the rifles in your post...

* Arsenal SGL-21 (7.62x39mm AK-103)
* Arsenal SLR-106FR (5.56x45mm AK-101)
* Springfield Armory M1A (7.62x51mm M14)

(The parenthetical info is for anyone reading this that is just learning what options they have.)

My SLR has the receiver optic rail though, and my SGL is bone stock.

All three are sensible choices.


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Re: What is your SHTF rifle? [Re: Endeavour Morse] #561276 11/09/10 02:05 PM
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Oh yeah, I'm shooting the SLR in my avatar (LOL)!


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Re: What is your SHTF rifle? [Re: Endeavour Morse] #561277 11/09/10 08:05 PM
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Yeah, I'm definitely a gearhead, always looking for some new toy to bolt onto a rifle. I'm REALLY happy with the Krebs Rail on the SGL-21, the M16A2 style peep sight at the rear of the rail is simply tremendous. I shot a ragged one hole group at 100 yds after zeroing the sights, with cheap yugo brass cased surplus. Couldn't be happier with the sights now, and it makes for a rock solid attachment point for an optic. Now, I just need to figure out which one I want...


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Re: What is your SHTF rifle? [Re: El CacaFuego] #561278 11/09/10 11:27 PM
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ECF,

How does the Krebs rail affect field stripping?


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Re: What is your SHTF rifle? [Re: Endeavour Morse] #561279 11/11/10 06:53 AM
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I can't figure out how to post the images (how friggin' frustrating after an hour of trying - never again):

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Benchmade 172 (my TEOTWAWKI canopener).

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MPete, I have am Rem 700VLS heavy 26 inch barrell and it will shoot even with cheap surples ammo! I could probably shoot the legs off a gnat at 13000 yards! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />


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Skunkhunter - 3" groups @ 300 yards - with the vsf / heavy barrel. It kicks [censored]!
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Re: What is your SHTF rifle? [Re: Endeavour Morse] #561282 11/12/10 05:23 AM
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Thanks for the responses.

I'm torn as I have a few options...DSA FAL Para, Sig556, Colt AR15, Arsenal SLR-106FR (223 AK), Springfield M1A, Ruger Mini-30.

Each has its strengths and weaknesses, and I can't decide what's best.

Out of what you have...M1A no question! If shtf I want to hide...not engage. Then again if maybe I was planning on staying at my house I'd go with one of the others.

What can you get parts for? What can have work done to it easiest? Are we talking LA riots or head for the hills?


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Re: What is your SHTF rifle? [Re: imaginefj] #561283 11/12/10 12:25 PM
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Imagine,

My plan is to stay put (bug in). However, something could happen that would require us to leave our suburban neighborhood for parts unknown.

I don't think parts will be available after TEOTWAWKI. There might be the occasional M4 / M16 magazine laying around some battlefield that everyone missed as they scavenged the site after the fact, but I'm going to assume that regular commerce (and weapons in particular) will be gone.


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