Scrap Yard Discussion Forums

Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 7 of 12 1 2 5 6 7 8 9 11 12
Re: What is your SHTF rifle? [Re: SkunkHunter] #561332 01/10/11 12:58 AM
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 64
D
DJ Offline
Pooch
Offline
Pooch
D
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 64
SkunkHunter, that's a totally realistic idea. I belong to a website dedicated to the FAL and this topic is discussed a lot. Many of the guys there have talked about a suppressed semiauto .22 in their BOB's.
I work about 22 miles from home and I'm more worried about getting home than I am bugging out. I'm assuming that I'm going to have to leave my truck and hike home. I've considered an M4gery for a "get my butt home truck gun", a Marlin .30-30, a .22.......I figure an AR or an FAL is gonna attract alot more attention than a .30-30 and if I'm trying to get home, I don't want to attract any attention. I live in rural Western Pennsylvania and I see lots more .30-30's than I do FALs. And the more I think about it, the more I like the idea of a suppressed .22, for all the reasons you stated.


***Proud AIR FORCE dad***
Re: What is your SHTF rifle? [Re: DJ] #561333 01/10/11 01:54 AM
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 116,169
SkunkHunter Online Content
Junk Yard Dog
Online Content
Junk Yard Dog
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 116,169
There was (IS) a book by I think Robert A.Heinlein titled "Tunnel in the Sky". Futuristic time where people travel to "land rush/homestead" new worlds. Bunch of high schoolers taking a survival class. As the LAST test,they Are sent to a primitive world for supposedly a week. YUP, it all goes south. Kids book, but if you read it and look at the survival aspect, got some things in it that will make you think.

ANYWAY, the "stars" sister is a military leader. She says whenever she sends out one of "her girls" on a recon mission, all she gives them is a knife. They KNOW knife fighting, but with only a knife they are more "stealthy", depending on remaining unseen and not confrontational. Kinda makes you think don't it.


A Little Paranoia Will Keep
You Safe (ALPWKYS)

Be a Sheepdog
JYD#105
Re: What is your SHTF rifle? [Re: SkunkHunter] #561334 01/10/11 01:57 AM
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 116,169
SkunkHunter Online Content
Junk Yard Dog
Online Content
Junk Yard Dog
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 116,169
Oh and the suppressed 22 as a Bug out rifle. Makes a lot of sense to me. You KNOW others will be armed with larger weapons than you, and you KNOW you need to concentrate on not being seen, or using VERY close range tactics ONLY WHEN THERE IS NO OTHER OPTION. You become the rabbit, not the badger.


A Little Paranoia Will Keep
You Safe (ALPWKYS)

Be a Sheepdog
JYD#105
Re: What is your SHTF rifle? [Re: SkunkHunter] #561335 01/10/11 05:02 AM
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 13,668
sumoj275 Offline
Junk Yard Dog
Offline
Junk Yard Dog
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 13,668
DJ, the FAL bug bit me in 1997 back in the FAL FILES blue board days. I just recently started looking around there again.

As to the suppressed BOB/BIB I think it makes a lot of sense for the following reasons:
A. Quiet, why draw attention to yourself if not needed.
B. .22lr is better than a sharp stick, and quite a bit of ammo can be carried.
C. A .22lr suppressor can be used on a pistol or a rifle that is threaded for the same pitch. A Marlin Papoose, Henry AR 7 Survival, or any other breakdown rifle can be stowed in a backpack easily.

Now I needed to talk the wife into a combo set-up for my b-day.


Men you can't trust, women you can't trust, beasts you can't trust, but Bussekin steel you can trust
Re: What is your SHTF rifle? [Re: sumoj275] #561336 01/10/11 04:44 PM
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 4,889
Endeavour Morse Offline OP
Junk Yard Dog
OP Offline
Junk Yard Dog
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 4,889
I think my first FAL foray was around '97 as well. Since then I've owned 20 or more of them. The two I have now are both older DSA factory assembled, and I wouldn't let them go for any price.

Regarding a SHTF suppressed 22....

1) When I was collecting Class 3 weapons my friend/SOT Dealer ordered a bunch of S&H Ruger Mk2 Integrally Suppressed handguns. If you held the action (bolt) closed with the thumb of your firing hand the only thing you could hear was the mechanical (firing pin) and then "crack" if the round wasn't a sub-sonic. I wanted one of these BAD, but had bought three machine guns in the past six months and didn't have the funds. Since then I've sold all of my Class 3 items, but would have kept the Suppressed Ruger.

2) My wife could have any firearm she wanted for a 'SHTF' scenario. She chose a stainless Ruger 10/22 for any event that requires us to leave our home. Its light, accurate, reliable, she can carry lots-o-ammo, and perfect for putting food in the pot. (My wife has a Colt 6520 - AR15 - for home defense).


JYD #123 The great one formerly known as Architect.

I am now a fictional British television police officer (currently a Detective Sgt) at Thames Valley Station. My governor is Detective Inspector Fred Thursday and it’s 1969.





Re: What is your SHTF rifle? [Re: Endeavour Morse] #561337 01/10/11 07:21 PM
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 116,169
SkunkHunter Online Content
Junk Yard Dog
Online Content
Junk Yard Dog
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 116,169
I'm glad I brought this up. I thought I might get stranded out on a limb with the post. Glad you guys think the same way (for SOME situations). Glad to know I wasn't out in left field.


A Little Paranoia Will Keep
You Safe (ALPWKYS)

Be a Sheepdog
JYD#105
Re: What is your SHTF rifle? [Re: SkunkHunter] #561338 01/10/11 09:12 PM
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 4,889
Endeavour Morse Offline OP
Junk Yard Dog
OP Offline
Junk Yard Dog
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 4,889
I'm a huge fan of suppressors. Oddly, countries that strongly restrict gun ownership often do not restrict suppressor ownership /use. Several years ago I studied this topic, but don't know if my info is still up to date.

I've always felt a suppressed 22LR handgun would make an ideal "SHTF" pack gun, because you can hunt with it undetected. I'd still want a full-power rifle, but having a 22 in the ruck allows you to hunt / carry lots of ammo for little weight.

Worst Case Scenario = Liberator Pistol.

The United States made tons of "Liberator" 45acp handguns and air-dropped them in Europe during WW2. The purpose of the cheap / crude Liberator was simple....you used it to liberate a better gun from the enemy. A suppressed 22LR could be used as a Liberator if all else failed....


JYD #123 The great one formerly known as Architect.

I am now a fictional British television police officer (currently a Detective Sgt) at Thames Valley Station. My governor is Detective Inspector Fred Thursday and it’s 1969.





Re: What is your SHTF rifle? [Re: Endeavour Morse] #561339 01/10/11 09:14 PM
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 4,889
Endeavour Morse Offline OP
Junk Yard Dog
OP Offline
Junk Yard Dog
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 4,889


JYD #123 The great one formerly known as Architect.

I am now a fictional British television police officer (currently a Detective Sgt) at Thames Valley Station. My governor is Detective Inspector Fred Thursday and it’s 1969.





Re: What is your SHTF rifle? [Re: Endeavour Morse] #561340 01/10/11 09:39 PM
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 116,169
SkunkHunter Online Content
Junk Yard Dog
Online Content
Junk Yard Dog
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 116,169
I remember reading an extended article about the Liberator many years ago in a gun magazine. Yup, crude. Effective YUP! Use what ya got to get what ya need!


A Little Paranoia Will Keep
You Safe (ALPWKYS)

Be a Sheepdog
JYD#105
Re: What is your SHTF rifle? [Re: SkunkHunter] #561341 01/10/11 11:04 PM
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 3,141
imaginefj Offline
Junk Yard Dog
Offline
Junk Yard Dog
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 3,141
Getting a suppressor is really easy here. 200 stamp and the sheriff signs off on it. Easy enough.


Join the NRA JYD #69 If a 6 turned out to be 9 Join the NRA
Re: What is your SHTF rifle? [Re: imaginefj] #561342 01/10/11 11:48 PM
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 116,169
SkunkHunter Online Content
Junk Yard Dog
Online Content
Junk Yard Dog
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 116,169
I think that it is pretty much the same here in Missouri now. Strangely enough, for years here in Missouri you could own a fully automatic weapon, but not a suppressor. Now you can own both AND we can CCW now for the past several years.


A Little Paranoia Will Keep
You Safe (ALPWKYS)

Be a Sheepdog
JYD#105
Re: What is your SHTF rifle? [Re: SkunkHunter] #561343 01/11/11 12:37 AM
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 3,141
imaginefj Offline
Junk Yard Dog
Offline
Junk Yard Dog
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 3,141
I guess if I was going to head for the hills today I'd grab my .308 and 10/22.


Join the NRA JYD #69 If a 6 turned out to be 9 Join the NRA
Page 7 of 12 1 2 5 6 7 8 9 11 12

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3