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Re: The BOB (Bug Out Bag) - A Description [Re: SkunkHunter] #569472 06/26/11 06:53 PM
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The glucose gel comes in a tube and can be squeezed into the inside of a cheek and dissolves quickly


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Re: The BOB (Bug Out Bag) - A Description [Re: coyotebc] #569473 06/26/11 07:02 PM
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Don't think I have ever seen the gel. How does it hold up to heat and cold?


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Re: The BOB (Bug Out Bag) - A Description [Re: SkunkHunter] #569474 06/26/11 07:08 PM
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Oh and I think I have found a solution to my water bottle dilemma.

Right now my bottle is 25 ounces. Well I wanted the extra almost 8 ounces. I can put the stainless steel cup in the side zipper pocket, the 1 liter ss bottle in it and then use paracord around the pull cord on the pocket and loop it around the bottle neck! I'll try it out later and see if I actually like it or not.


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Re: The BOB (Bug Out Bag) - A Description [Re: SkunkHunter] #569475 06/27/11 03:08 AM
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Re: The BOB (Bug Out Bag) - A Description [Re: coyotebc] #569476 06/28/11 03:21 AM
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Thanks for the links Bill.


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Re: The BOB (Bug Out Bag) - A Description [Re: SkunkHunter] #569477 06/28/11 12:58 PM
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Also, google "energy gel". I haven't really compared the prices of the "performance gels" versus those made for diabetics in a long time.

Gu, Powergel, Clif Shots, etc., etc. TASTE better. Check the nutritional information also. Most of these small packets contain more than 15g, more like 24-30g of quick carbs; and some also contain other ingredients such as electrolytes and protein.

Also, I have NOT thoughtfully compared how fast these will raise glucose levels or how they dissolve and absorb in the mouth -- which might be a MAJOR factor in emergency use.

A cursory review indicates that the "performance gels" might be a less expensive and better option.

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Gu contains caffeine which you wouldn't want to give to a diabetic if they were in distress.
Not sure about the other products mentioned.
Glucose gel is aimed primarily at diabetics


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Re: The BOB (Bug Out Bag) - A Description [Re: coyotebc] #569479 06/29/11 12:12 AM
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Man I love these threads always fun to see what everyone is packing. I end up carrying a backpack 99% of the time since my kids are usually with me and they dont tend to carry much in their BOBs except cool stuff. Its cool though, I am just glad they are in to their BOBs. At 8 pouncds a gallon, water aint light. My man purse is a Maratac bag from County Comm. It works so well I bought another.


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Re: The BOB (Bug Out Bag) - A Description [Re: coyotebc] #569480 06/29/11 01:08 PM
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Gu contains caffeine which you wouldn't want to give to a diabetic if they were in distress.
Not sure about the other products mentioned.
Glucose gel is aimed primarily at diabetics

The performance gels can be bought with varying levels of caffeine, including no caffeine.
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http://diabetes.webmd.com/news/20080128/caffeine-risks-may-rattle-diabetics

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/caffeine-and-blood-sugar/MY01070

The articles referenced above indicate that caffeine increased glucose levels in studies on Type 2 diabetics.
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This next article indicates that caffeine is not a good choice during hypoglycemia.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/402727-hypoglycemia-caffeine/
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The next two articles indicate that caffeine before exercise lowers the risk of hypoglycemic events.

http://diabetesnewshound.com/type1/caffeine-exercises/

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/724488

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However, in my opinion and experience, when a diabetic is undergoing a hypoglycemic event, I have no issue with giving them sugar even though it has caffeine, i.e. performance gels, caffeinated energy drinks, or coffee with the APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF SUGAR.

However, I would not give them a DIET (no sugar) drink or non-sugared coffee. I also would not give them cheeseburgers or pizza UNTIL the blood glucose levels have increased to an appropriate range and the symptoms of the event have subsided.

The form of the sugar is also important.

Re: The BOB (Bug Out Bag) - A Description [Re: SkunkHunter] #569481 06/29/11 01:29 PM
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Guys remember a condom will only fill up if the water is under pressure. That is fine if you have a hose or a water filter etc. But if you have those things you wouldn't be filling a condom full of water. Also how will it be sealed?


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Re: The BOB (Bug Out Bag) - A Description [Re: BillyJoeBobJim] #569482 06/29/11 01:30 PM
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Jeeps, which bags did you get? I had thought about them and in the long run I probably should have. Oh well, they make bags all the time.

AND a lot of good discussion about diabetic problems, thanks!


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Re: The BOB (Bug Out Bag) - A Description [Re: SkunkHunter] #569483 06/29/11 02:14 PM
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I got to check out some of this gel you are talking about. I have had the chewable tabs that Skunk is talking about, but I like the idea of a gel a lot better.


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